Basic af home network help

[DoesItSeemLaggy]

I live in england, we use the telephone line for internet connection so I have a rj11 connection in my wall which goes to my modem rj11 to rj 11 however due to the layout of my house the position of this socket is awful and i cant run cable throughout my home.

 

RJ11 to RJ45 cable > Primary PPD > Secondary PPD > RJ45/ ethernet cable > Router

 

Would it still get internet if I don't use my BT modem and swap it for a TP-link router?

Would I need anything else to make this work?

 

RJ11-RJ45 cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/rhinocables®-Ethernet-Modem-Telephone-Cable/dp/B01MTEWGVD

powerline passthrough Device(PPD): https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B01G5Q9E0O?psc=1

TP Link Router: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-C50-Wireless-Supports-Parental/dp/B075PDLQ2Y?psc=1

[Electronics Wizardy]

you can't just conver rj11 to rj45, you normally need a modem first.

 

If plug the router into the modem directly, then use powerline to anoutehr access point if you need beter wifi

[Senzelian]

You can't pass a synchronized DSL signal through an ethernet powerline adapter. Two completly different standards.

And on top of that, with each adapter, cable and connection the signal becomes worse.

 

When it comes to replacing your modem, then you will need a new modem/router that supports your ISP's standard, which most commonly is VDSL2.

 

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you can't just conver rj11 to rj45, you normally need a modem first.

You can convert that without any issues. It's just a connector. In Germany we commonly use TAE, which is an entirely different standard for DSL. I converted mine to RJ45.

 

[DoesItSeemLaggy]

1 minute ago, Senzelian said:

You can't pass a synchronized DSL signal through an ethernet powerline adapter. Two completly different standards.

And on top of that, with each adapter, cable and connection the signal becomes worse.

 

When it comes to replacing your modem, then you will need a new modem/router that supports your ISP's standard, which most commonly is VDSL2.

 

You can convert that without any issues. It's just a connector. In Germany we commonly use TAE, which is an entirely different standard for DSL. I converted mine to RJ45.

 

ok so if I understand you correctly I can use an rj11 to rj45 adapter to then do rj45 to powerline adapter which then allows me to place my router anywhere in my house so long as it supports my ISP's standard?

 

My issue is that I have an extension on the front of my house which is essentially outside my outerwall which is very thick so there little to no signal past that point so I want to move my router to the center of my house and get a more even coverage with no wires trailing through the house (no floorboards and cant put a cable in an outer wall)

 

[DoesItSeemLaggy]

9 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you can't just conver rj11 to rj45, you normally need a modem first.

 

If plug the router into the modem directly, then use powerline to anoutehr access point if you need beter wifi

So i have to put my router next to my modem which then goes through the power to an access point? why not just modem to powerline adapter into access point? which i can covert the archer C50 router into ?

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, DoesItSeemLaggy said:

ok so if I understand you correctly I can use an rj11 to rj45 adapter to then do rj45 to powerline adapter which then allows me to place my router anywhere in my house so long as it supports my ISP's standard?

 

My issue is that I have an extension on the front of my house which is essentially outside my outerwall which is very thick so there little to no signal past that point so I want to move my router to the center of my house and get a more even coverage with no wires trailing through the house (no floorboards and cant put a cable in an outer wall)

 

You don't seem to have a modem in this setup. You will need a modem to connect your isp to yoru router.

 

Id get a mesh setup or a few access points to handle those areas.

[DoesItSeemLaggy]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You don't seem to have a modem in this setup. You will need a modem to connect your isp to yoru router.

 

Id get a mesh setup or a few access points to handle those areas.

Ah right, okay Ill have a look into that, thank you for the help Mr Wizardy

[Senzelian]

38 minutes ago, DoesItSeemLaggy said:

ok so if I understand you correctly I can use an rj11 to rj45 adapter to then do rj45 to powerline adapter which then allows me to place my router anywhere in my house so long as it supports my ISP's standard?

 

My issue is that I have an extension on the front of my house which is essentially outside my outerwall which is very thick so there little to no signal past that point so I want to move my router to the center of my house and get a more even coverage with no wires trailing through the house (no floorboards and cant put a cable in an outer wall)

 

Nope that's not what I said.

RJ 11 and RJ 45 are simply connectors. They can both be used for many different devices and protocolls.

 

You need to connect the cable that is coming out of your wall directly to a modem. You can use adapters to change the connector type or to use extensions or whatever, but you cannot use devices like powerline to extend the signal. This is because the modem needs to synchronize the DSL signal. If you put a device between that, this cannot be done anymore. (There are devices that can do that, but let's not get into that. Too expensive and too niche)

 

After the modem has connected to your ISP you can do whatever you want with that signal. Now it's an ethernet signal, which you can use for powerline, switches, routers, PCs, whatever.

 

So what you can do is the following:

 

Wallplug (RJ11, RJ45, ...) -> Modem -> Router -> Powerline Adapter -> Powerline Adapter 2 -> Whatever

 

or

 

Wallplug (RJ11, RJ45, ...) -> Modem -> Powerline Adapter -> Powerline Adapter 2 -> Router -> Whatever