Single ram stick wont overclock and causes crashes

[IzLogan]

Hi, I've been having this issue whenever I enable D.O.C.P. My pc would crash and boot 3 times and tell me something went wrong with the ram and has reset its settings. "Your Memory settings have been reset due to failure to boot" I have tested each ram stick and learned that it was the only one that had this issue. this started happening early this morning and it sometimes lets me get into windows with all of them installed. THE D.O.C.P settings are setting the ram to 3000mhz at 1.35000V. Anyone got any advice? I've also tried changing the order of the ram as well as updating my bios and resetting it. I've also changed the voltage to 1.37V to try and that didn't work either.

The faulty ram stick is a corsair cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 DDR4 3000mhz
My specs are
ROG STRIX b450-F Gaming
Ryzen 7 2700x
2x corsair cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 DDR4 3000mhz
2x A-Data DDR4 3000 2OZ DDR4
GTX 1070ti DUKE
EVGA 80+ BRONZE 500w


Please help. Thank you.

[-rascal-]

51 minutes ago, IzLogan said:

Hi, I've been having this issue whenever I enable D.O.C.P. My pc would crash and boot 3 times and tell me something went wrong with the ram and has reset its settings. "Your Memory settings have been reset due to failure to boot" I have tested each ram stick and learned that it was the only one that had this issue. this started happening early this morning and it sometimes lets me get into windows with all of them installed. THE D.O.C.P settings are setting the ram to 3000mhz at 1.35000V. Anyone got any advice? I've also tried changing the order of the ram as well as updating my bios and resetting it. I've also changed the voltage to 1.37V to try and that didn't work either.

The faulty ram stick is a corsair cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 DDR4 3000mhz
My specs are
ROG STRIX b450-F Gaming
Ryzen 7 2700x
2x corsair cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 DDR4 3000mhz
2x A-Data DDR4 3000 2OZ DDR4
GTX 1070ti DUKE
EVGA 80+ BRONZE 500w


Please help. Thank you.

 

Do you have 'Gear Down' mode enabled in BIOS?

This forces even-numbered timings (e.g. your CL15 would be CL16) -- it should help with stability, though, with it enabled.

 

Are you running both the A-Data and Corsair kit together?

4x DIMMs is harder on the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) than 2x DIMMs .... and IMC on Ryzen 1000-series and 2000-series was pretty weak.

 

Also, try bumping your SOC voltage up to ~1.1V.

That *usually* helps stabilizes DRAM overclocks.

Stock should be 0.9V or something?

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Do you have 'Gear Down' mode enabled in BIOS?

This forces even-numbered timings (e.g. your CL15 would be CL16) -- it should help with stability, though, with it enabled.

 

Are you running both the A-Data and Corsair kit together?

4x DIMMs is harder on the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) than 2x DIMMs .... and IMC on Ryzen 1000-series and 2000-series was pretty weak.

 

Also, try bumping your SOC voltage up to ~1.1V.

That *usually* helps stabilizes DRAM overclocks.

Stock should be 0.9V or something?

XMP enabled the board should put SOC to about 1.09v automatically. 

 

Would try the Cpu IMC rated 2933mhz. Set XMP, but manually input 2933. Should post up. edit (on 2 sticks)

[IzLogan]

4 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Do you have 'Gear Down' mode enabled in BIOS?

This forces even-numbered timings (e.g. your CL15 would be CL16) -- it should help with stability, though, with it enabled.

 

Are you running both the A-Data and Corsair kit together?

4x DIMMs is harder on the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) than 2x DIMMs .... and IMC on Ryzen 1000-series and 2000-series was pretty weak.

 

Also, try bumping your SOC voltage up to ~1.1V.

That *usually* helps stabilizes DRAM overclocks.

Stock should be 0.9V or something?

My SOC voltage is already at 1.100V with D.O.C.P enabled.. I also dont see an option Called "Gear Down" either. And yes im running both kits and they are identical speeds and timings. I dont quite know what caused this since my pc has worked early this morning and the day before no issues. I did build this yesterday. And i need all of the 32 GB of total ram. Please let me know if you need anymore images as i still can get into windows and my bios with 3 sticks.

[-rascal-]

14 hours ago, IzLogan said:

My SOC voltage is already at 1.100V with D.O.C.P enabled.. I also dont see an option Called "Gear Down" either. And yes im running both kits and they are identical speeds and timings. I dont quite know what caused this since my pc has worked early this morning and the day before no issues. I did build this yesterday. And i need all of the 32 GB of total ram. Please let me know if you need anymore images as i still can get into windows and my bios with 3 sticks.

 

 

Since you are running a 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU, it could simply just not like DDR4-3000.

Have you tried DDR4-2933 or DDR4-2800, etc?

Enable DOCP (so it sets the timings and voltage for you), but manually select the 'Memory Frequency' to DDR4-2933 / 2800 / 2666.

 

Are both Corsair and A-Data kits the SAME timings / specs?

If one is rated for....say... DDR4-3000 16-16-16-38 timings, and the other is DDR4-3000 15-17-17-36...

That CL16 kit probably won't be happy running at CL15 kit timings...

 

 

'Gear Down Mode' should be under the 'DRAM Timing Control' menu.

 

 

 

[IzLogan]

51 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Since you are running a 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU, it could simply just not like DDR4-3000.

Have you tried DDR4-2933 or DDR4-2800, etc?

Enable DOCP (so it sets the timings and voltage for you), but manually select the 'Memory Frequency' to DDR4-2933 / 2800 / 2666.

 

Are both Corsair and A-Data kits the SAME timings / specs?

If one is rated for....say... DDR4-3000 16-16-16-38 timings, and the other is DDR4-3000 15-17-17-36...

That CL16 kit probably won't be happy running at CL15 kit timings...

 

 

'Gear Down Mode' should be under the 'DRAM Timing Control' menu.

 

 

 

They are the exact same timings. And I’ve tired lower then 3000. And didn’t work either. I can run 3000 on the other 3 dimms no problem. And lower. But the second I put this one in. It doesn’t work. I will try gear down mode right now and mess with some settings to see if I can get it to work

[IzLogan]

Just now, IzLogan said:

They are the exact same timings. And I’ve tired lower then 3000. And didn’t work either. I can run 3000 on the other 3 dimms no problem. And lower. But the second I put this one in. It doesn’t work. I will try gear down mode right now and mess with some settings to see if I can get it to work

Gear down mode didn’t work but I’ll continue to see if I can lower the MHz slowly 

[IzLogan]

9 minutes ago, IzLogan said:

Gear down mode didn’t work but I’ll continue to see if I can lower the MHz slowly 

I did get it too boot into windows with 3000mhz but I’m worried about the stability. It was causing the bios to corrupt it self and windows aswell. And whenever I restarted windows it would say my bios is in recovery mode. Idk if that’s the case I’ll let you know. Aswell as crashing in games. EDIT (It’s still doing the bios thing.) (It’s the same thing only instead of x299E3.cap, it’s B450FGM.Cap)

[-rascal-]

3 hours ago, IzLogan said:

I did get it too boot into windows with 3000mhz but I’m worried about the stability. It was causing the bios to corrupt it self and windows aswell. And whenever I restarted windows it would say my bios is in recovery mode. Idk if that’s the case I’ll let you know. Aswell as crashing in games. EDIT (It’s still doing the bios thing.) (It’s the same thing only instead of x299E3.cap, it’s B450FGM.Cap)

 

I'm hoping that single DRAM stick is not straight up faulty from the factory -- but that does happen.

And that can't be ruled out yet at the moment

 

 

What version BIOS is currently flashed onto your motherboard?

According to ASUS, latest version available is 3103 (2020/06/23).

 

Not including the latest 4001 BETA, as that is for Ryzen 5000-series. You install this BIOS, and Ryzen 3000-series support and older is lost.

 

The notes say:

- NOT to update to this beta BIOS when using AM4 Socket for Ryzen 3000 Series / 2000 Series / 100 Series / A-Series Desktop Processors.

- This beta BIOS can't be reversed.

[IzLogan]

22 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

I'm hoping that single DRAM stick is not straight up faulty from the factory -- but that does happen.

And that can't be ruled out yet at the moment

 

 

What version BIOS is currently flashed onto your motherboard?

According to ASUS, latest version available is 3103 (2020/06/23).

 

Not including the latest 4001 BETA, as that is for Ryzen 5000-series. You install this BIOS, and Ryzen 3000-series support and older is lost.

 

The notes say:

- NOT to update to this beta BIOS when using AM4 Socket for Ryzen 3000 Series / 2000 Series / 100 Series / A-Series Desktop Processors.

- This beta BIOS can't be reversed.

i used the internet updater that was in the bios and it had updated me to 4001. but this was after the stick stopped working. before this i had used 3103 and that didn't work either. The stick had worked for a whole day before hand. no issues. I am pretty sure while it was overclocking it might have messed it up.