To Build or Buy Part 2

[TyrionBlue]

Budget (including currency): Wanted to keep around £1,500 but could go slightly higher 

Country:  UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Main intention is to be able to game (RDR2, GTA, Total War Series etc.) with occasional accounting work.  

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  Currently have a 10+ year old laptop which I’m surprised is still running and have been using PS4 to game on.  Have basic peripherals which should do for now and would like to buy/build in December/January.

 

I had posted back in July and decided it should be worth waiting until around now with new gen being released.  I have never built a PC before but would like to try/learn how and appreciate any help advice on the below

 

Also am I missing something here https://www.box.co.uk/create-your-own-custom-pc?s=2961990,3213590,2701618,2597557,2264485,3547555,1807974,2444220,2873115,3183924,2250583,2328219 as looks like a similar spec to me with not much difference in price?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	£311.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	£72.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	£149.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	£95.94 @ Newegg UK
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£91.20 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£50.98 @ CCL Computers
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card	£763.67 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	£79.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£107.40 @ Alza
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	£89.95 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1813.60
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-21 01:31 GMT+0000

 

 

[Coolmaster]

Both of those builds are fine. Maybe with that budget you'd want to go all SSD, but that's upto you.

[kewtz]

Nice build, go for it. 

[Dedayog]

Don't pay full price for Windows.  Then use that money to get a 1TB SSD for data/games.  

 

That level machine needs all SSD love.  You don't buy a $800 GPU and slow feed it off a HDD.

[TyrionBlue]

Ok thanks. Did prefer the sound of all SSD but thought I remember seeing somewhere that it didn’t make much difference to the gaming performance but I may have misunderstood.

[TyrionBlue]

13 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Don't pay full price for Windows.  Then use that money to get a 1TB SSD for data/games.  

 

That level machine needs all SSD love.  You don't buy a $800 GPU and slow feed it off a HDD.

Ok thanks.
 

Did prefer the sound of all SSD but thought I’d seen somewhere that it didn’t make much difference to gaming performance but I may have misunderstood.

 

Is there another way for me to get windows?

[Coolmaster]

22 minutes ago, TyrionBlue said:

Ok thanks. Did prefer the sound of all SSD but thought I remember seeing somewhere that it didn’t make much difference to the gaming performance but I may have misunderstood.

SSDs decrease the length of load times in games, but when gaming it makes almost no difference.

 

19 minutes ago, TyrionBlue said:

Is there another way for me to get windows?

You can just use Windows unactivated, or get a license from another way. There are some 3rd party sites that you can buy a license for ~$20.

[Dedayog]

On 11/21/2020 at 11:18 AM, TyrionBlue said:

Ok thanks.
 

Did prefer the sound of all SSD but thought I’d seen somewhere that it didn’t make much difference to gaming performance but I may have misunderstood.

 

Is there another way for me to get windows?

It greatly decreases load times and also helps with stutter in games due to being able to load textures much faster, not always noticeable but if you search you'll see there are benefits in some cases for it.

 

Windows can be had as said above, Ebay for example has keys aplenty.

[TyrionBlue]

Had found Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G36C16U4R 3600 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 32GB (16GB x2), CL16 For £140 which thought for the increase in price over the 8GB x 2 in original build list would be worth getting but have now just seen Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB 3600MHz 2x16GB DDR4 Memory Kit for £124.50 (£113 plus £11.50 delivery).  Would I see any/much improvement from 8GB x 2 to 16GB x 2 and are the two mentioned going to give same performance/ reliability?

[Dedayog]

20 hours ago, TyrionBlue said:

Had found Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G36C16U4R 3600 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 32GB (16GB x2), CL16 For £140 which thought for the increase in price over the 8GB x 2 in original build list would be worth getting but have now just seen Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB 3600MHz 2x16GB DDR4 Memory Kit for £124.50 (£113 plus £11.50 delivery).  Would I see any/much improvement from 8GB x 2 to 16GB x 2 and are the two mentioned going to give same performance/ reliability?

You only see benefits of more RAM if you are using at or over 16GB.  Some games can use more, usually heavily modded games like Skyrim, Minecraft, Ark, etc.  Check RAM usage in Task Manager.  If you routinely hit 15GB+... may be useful.

 

No, you won't see a difference between those two kits, their speeds are the same and any variance in CL is negligible.

[TyrionBlue]

Will I be ok with a 650W PSU for this build or am I better off going for 850W?  I know the estimated wattage on PCpartpicker for this build is under the 650W but the RTX 3080 is recommending higher.  Would appreciate if anyone is able to explain the reason for this?

[TyrionBlue]

If anyone can help me understand the difference in recommended wattage on pcpartpicker compared to the GPU manufacturers I would very much appreciate it.  Probably a stupid question but is there any down side to having a PSU with a lot more watts than you need other than costing more/spending more than you need?  Thinking best to go with higher just to be on safe side.

[Downkey]

1 hour ago, TyrionBlue said:

If anyone can help me understand the difference in recommended wattage on pcpartpicker compared to the GPU manufacturers I would very much appreciate it.  Probably a stupid question but is there any down side to having a PSU with a lot more watts than you need other than costing more/spending more than you need?  Thinking best to go with higher just to be on safe side.

Wow, you came back 2 months later.....

Also please tag someone, otherwise we won’t know when you respond.

 

Anyway, I’m surprise no one had recommended this, but 750W would be much better. Ampere has “power spikes” so a 750 - 850 RM or RMX would be good.

[VEXICUS]

This can be an option...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£301.98 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.93 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Box Limited) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£111.91 @ Newegg UK) 

Storage: Sabrent Rocket 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£229.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card (£843.67 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 

Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (£91.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£92.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £1859.95

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-30 13:42 GMT+0000

[TyrionBlue]

Managed to get myself a RTX 3080 FE at MSRP and its just been delivered  so can finally attempt my first PC Build!  Been a while since I did my research on how to build this so any recommendations or resources I should look over as a guide before I get going would be appreciated.

 

Here’s the final parts list (Not bought the second SSD yet but will look at getting this or similar soon)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/TyrionBlue/saved/#view=c7FjZL

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, TyrionBlue said:

Managed to get myself a RTX 3080 FE at MSRP and its just been delivered  so can finally attempt my first PC Build!  Been a while since I did my research on how to build this so any recommendations or resources I should look over as a guide before I get going would be appreciated.

 

Here’s the final parts list (Not bought the second SSD yet but will look at getting this or similar soon)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/TyrionBlue/saved/#view=c7FjZL

You need to fix the link, as it says permission denied.

[TyrionBlue]

7 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

You need to fix the link, as it says permission denied.

Ok thanks have tried again here and hopefully the link now works