Should I upgrade Ryzen 3000 to Ryzen 5000

[StefUK]

Hi there,

 

I'm looking for advice if I should upgrade or not my 1 year old build. 

 

The spec of my system are:

-X570 MSI MPG GAMING PRO WI-FI
-AMD Ryzen 7 3700x (@4425 Mhz all cores @1.3625v stable) with Artic Liquid Freezer II 240 all in one
-PSU - HX1000 80+ platinum
-GPU - 5700XT XFX THICK III Ultra @2048 Mhz @1.07V
-256gb NMVE boot drive + 1000 GB 2.5ssd + 2000 GB 3.5 HDD
-64 GB RAM overclocked  @3600 CL16-18-18-36 @1.38v Crucial Ballistix RGB BL2K16G32C16U4WL 3200 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 32GB (16GB x2) x2

Monitor - Samsung 34" Ultrawide 3440x1440 with Freesync @75hrz

 

It's double purpose machine. I'm using it for work (AutoCAD, Corel draw, Photoshop & all other office programs) and occasional gaming ( Heavy moded Cities Skyline, Witcher III, Dirt 2)

 

Is it worth to rush Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6800xt or wait another 6-8 months for the prices to drop down?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

[homeap5]

For AutoCad, Photoshop and CorelDraw - no.

For occasional gaming - no.

But if you have too much money - why not. :)

[JayBe]

5 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

For AutoCad, Photoshop and CorelDraw - no.

For occasional gaming - no.

But if you have too much money - why not.

That pretty much sums it up.

If you have enough money to spare, the combo of a zen3 + big navi is pretty cool. But not "needed" imo. Especially not for what you do.

[SamClan]

No!

The question you should ask yourself is, Does my game lag? Do I have FPS drops? Is my game running smoothly? Does my productivity profit from it?  Do I want a better CPU because it is shiny? 

if you only can answer the last question with yes you shouldn't but hey if you want to throw money out of the window go for it. 

Or maybe get a better headset, soundsystem? sound is something very overlooked. 

 

 

 

[jones177]

Yes.

Faster is better.

 

I mod games and when you do that the more CPU(IPC, Frequency) you have the more content you can add before your game becomes a stuttering mess.

My i9 10900k was not bought for RDR 2 or Horizon Zero Dawn. My i7 8086k can run them perfectly.  It was bought for Space Engineer and Fallout 4. Both are almost unplayable on my i7 but run smooth on the i9.

 

So if Cities Skyline is running fine you can wait until it doesn't.

 

The difference to me is simple. My modded games would be unplayable on a 3700X but they would run just fine on a 5800X.

[StefUK]

Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate your feedback. Most probably will wait a for a while. The Cities is still playable even only at 35 to 45 fps... In the end it's not competitive shooter. 

[SAVE-12-HK]

25 minutes ago, StefUK said:

Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate your feedback. Most probably will wait a for a while. The Cities is still playable even only at 35 to 45 fps... In the end it's not competitive shooter. 

 

[whm1974]

8 hours ago, jones177 said:

Yes.

Faster is better.

 

I mod games and when you do that the more CPU(IPC, Frequency) you have the more content you can add before your game becomes a stuttering mess.

My i9 10900k was not bought for RDR 2 or Horizon Zero Dawn. My i7 8086k can run them perfectly.  It was bought for Space Engineer and Fallout 4. Both are almost unplayable on my i7 but run smooth on the i9.

 

So if Cities Skyline is running fine you can wait until it doesn't.

 

The difference to me is simple. My modded games would be unplayable on a 3700X but they would run just fine on a 5800X.

What kind of Mods are you doing that that would be unplayable on a i7 8086k or R7 3700x? These are high end Consumer CPUs.

[jones177]

2 hours ago, whm1974 said:

What kind of Mods are you doing that that would be unplayable on a i7 8086k or R7 3700x? These are high end Consumer CPUs.

Adding NPCs in Fallout 4 or any other game that has a mod for it.

Since PC games became console ports higher difficulty means 2 hits with a shotgun at point blank range instead of just one. To me that is not fun. What is fun is then there are more enemy NPCs that can only take one shotgun blast.

The problem is consoles have limited processing power so NPC counts almost never go up.  So if I am going to replay a game the first thing I do is to see if there is a mod that adds more NPCs

 

In Fallout 4 I have one mod that does a multiple of every enemy NPC the game creates.  I have gone up to 10x but that creates a hellish battlefield that always ends up with a CTD.  8X is all I can do and keep the game stable. 

Other mods create even more NPCs and every NPC runs a script. The more scripts that are running the lower the frame rate.

I can control the number of enemy NPCs so my i7 8086k without an overclock can only handle about 5x before the game falls apart. With a 5ghz all core overclock 7x is doable but if another mod puts a lot more NPCs in the cell the games falls apart again. With the i9 the boosts to 5.2ghz and 5.3 with TVB can handle the script spikes caused by the NPCs so action can go on without losing frames and becoming a stuttering mess.

This screen is with 5x enemy NPCs.

 

 

With Space Engineers it is the amount blocks in the ships and the amount of guns firing in battle. 

Each gun is automatic and runs a script. Each shot from a gun has to have damage calculated instantly. 

It is lots of fun but repairing battle damage is a pain so I use lots of guns and that and cause lag.

Here is an image of one base. When this base gets attacked there are over 100 gun firing and that causes lag.

 

I started doing this in 2007 with Oblivion. The roads and the dungeons seemed empty so I started adding more NPCs. I was lucky to get 20fps back then.

 

 

 

   

 

 

[Mister Woof]

If you get paid by the hour not by the job, then no.

 

If you get paid by the job, there's a breaking point where the improvements will make you money. Figure out how much time == $500