Intel 12th gen looking like a mini amd epyc with the LGA1700 whats next LGA2000?

[BenOver]

This is... I don't know what to comment on this look at the picture that should show enough but really Intel? whats next at this point?

[CommanderAlex]

Intel's HEDT lineup has bigger packages on Skylake-X (previously mentioned on the Tech News discussion on this) which is 52.5 mm × 45 mm. It's nothing new and they are going with a BIG little design for CPU performance. 

[mahyar]

alder lake is a complete redesign its will use ddr5 memory and big-little core design

[BenOver]

1 minute ago, CommanderAlex said:

Intel's HEDT lineup has bigger packages on Skylake-X (previously mentioned on the Tech News discussion on this) which is 52.5 mm × 45 mm. It's nothing new and they are going with a BIG little design for CPU performance. 

when you move said size to mainstream cpus its a problem by me not that i don't like intel i would rather take intel but I'm not losing performance since i like a brand

[BenOver]

2 minutes ago, mahyar said:

alder lake is a complete redesign its will use ddr5 memory and big-little core design

the big-little really feels like intel gave up on being anything other than gaming but i guess well see when the time comes

 

[mahyar]

3 minutes ago, BenOver said:

the big-little really feels like intel gave up on being anything other than gaming but i guess well see when the time comes

 

well big little is already used in lakefield cpus and fun fact lakefield uses intel's 10n, process same as alder lake  

[CommanderAlex]

3 minutes ago, mahyar said:

alder lake is a complete redesign its will use ddr5 memory and big-little core design

Its exciting news that is coming out from leakers that Intel may have a chance at coming back (which is necessary for competition) but when we're talking about a year out from now...that's where they may be SOL with upgrades to AMD over the next couple of months. 

4 minutes ago, BenOver said:

when you move said size to mainstream cpus its a problem by me not that i don't like intel i would rather take intel but I'm not losing performance since i like a brand

Size shouldn't really matter as most coolers fit Intel's HEDT format. Threadripper is a different subject as that die is HUGE. 

[SolarNova]

LGA 2000 isnt a fantastical number. LGA 2011 is a thing.

[BenOver]

1 minute ago, mahyar said:

well big little is already used in lakefield cpus and fun fact lakefield uses intel's 10n, process same as alder lake  

you can't tell a desktop cpu performace from a laptop cpu just have to wait

[BenOver]

1 minute ago, SolarNova said:

LGA 2000 isnt a fantastical number. LGA 2011 is a thing.

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[mahyar]

1 minute ago, CommanderAlex said:

Its exciting news that is coming out from leakers that Intel may have a chance at coming back (which is necessary for competition) but when we're talking about a year out from now...that's where they may be SOL with upgrades to AMD over the next couple of months. 

funny thing is its actually confirmed and they (hopefully) will switch to a smaller process 

[mahyar]

Just now, BenOver said:

you can't tell a desktop cpu performace from a laptop cpu just have to wait

its the closest thing we have to the alder lake so we might as well compare them

[mahyar]

2 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

LGA 2000 isnt a fantastical number. LGA 2011 is a thing.

2066 dont forget that

[BenOver]

2 minutes ago, mahyar said:

2066 dont forget that

as much as i love intel they gotta keep sockets for longer like put blank pins on the cpu if you have to but why every 2 generations it yeets upgradeability out the window

[mahyar]

btw 1700 is for alder lake-s rumors say there is a alder lake -p

[CommanderAlex]

4 minutes ago, mahyar said:

funny thing is its actually confirmed and they (hopefully) will switch to a smaller process 

I believe from what I have read online that Intel has finally sorted out 10nm process and starting production or have already begun production (I know select laptop CPUs are beginning to come out with 10nm SuperFin) and is exciting. 

5 minutes ago, mahyar said:

2066 dont forget that

Yeah there have been a slew of different socket types and does it really matter to the consumer? No, I just know that there are performance increases over each type and more features that you don't get on previous socket types. 

2 minutes ago, BenOver said:

as much as i love intel they gotta keep sockets for longer like put blank pins on the cpu if you have to but why every 2 generations it yeets upgradeability out the window

Do you not want more features with a new processor? AMD already achieved 5 years of support using the AM4 platform and a small vocal group spoke up about Zen 3 not being supported on older motherboard chipsets and forced AMD's hand to support them. 

[BenOver]

1 minute ago, CommanderAlex said:

I believe from what I have read online that Intel has finally sorted out 10nm process and starting production or have already begun production (I know select laptop CPUs are beginning to come out with 10nm SuperFin) and is exciting. 

Yeah there have been a slew of different socket types and does it really matter to the consumer? No, I just know that there are performance increases over each type and more features that you don't get on previous socket types. 

Do you not want more features with a new processor? AMD already achieved 5 years of support using the AM4 platform and a small vocal group spoke up about Zen 3 not being supported on older motherboard chipsets and forced AMD's hand to support them. 

thats a good argument but cpus come out every year so 3 years of support will be a very nice addition it can't happen with LGA1200 as the fact that dd5 is coming but maybe with LGA1700?

[LauRoman]

46 minutes ago, BenOver said:

as much as i love intel they gotta keep sockets for longer like put blank pins on the cpu if you have to but why every 2 generations it yeets upgradeability out the window

Like 1151? Oh wait.