Will it Bottleneck?

[UndecidedPurchaser]

I have a motherboard that only has PCI 2.0 and i want to get a graphics card.

Im thinking of the rx 580, but if it bottlenecks... will the gtx 1650 come better?

Im quite new to this so help is appreciated.

Here's my CPU-Z if anyone wants further info about my pc: 
https://valid.x86.fr/23hsir

[Kanna]

What is your other parts if the mobo port is only that speed then it would be waste getting any of those cards, also do you mean PCIE or actual PCI

[UndecidedPurchaser]

Just now, Kanna said:

What is your other parts if the mobo port is only that speed then it would be waste getting any of those cards, also do you mean PCIE or actual PCI

Motherboard

Acer Veriton M6610G

Intel i5-2400 3.1Ghz

microATX

LGA 1155 

PCIex 2xPCIex16 PCI

6xSATA

4xDDR3

VGA DVI display port 

Serial port RS232 

 

[jtmoseley]

5 minutes ago, UndecidedPurchaser said:

I have a motherboard that only has PCI 2.0 and i want to get a graphics card.

Im thinking of the rx 580, but if it bottlenecks... will the gtx 1650 come better?

Im quite new to this so help is appreciated.

Here's my CPU-Z if anyone wants further info about my pc: 
https://valid.x86.fr/23hsir

The 580 will bottleneck, and so will the 1650. A second gen i5 just isn't good enough. 

 

I would either get like a used gtx 770 or just upgrade platforms to new ryzen or intel. 

[mahyar]

neh 1650 bearly use a PCIE 3.0 4x so a 2.0 16x is enough

[UndecidedPurchaser]

Just now, jtmoseley said:

The 580 will bottleneck, and so will the 1650. A second gen i5 just isn't good enough. 

 

I would either get like a used gtx 770 or just upgrade platforms to new ryzen or intel. 

Oh god, this is bad news. Guess i'll look into cpu's

[mahyar]

1 minute ago, jtmoseley said:

The 580 will bottleneck, and so will the 1650. A second gen i5 just isn't good enough. 

 

I would either get like a used gtx 770 or just upgrade platforms to new ryzen or intel. 

i think he means bandwidth wise

[UndecidedPurchaser]

2 minutes ago, jtmoseley said:

The 580 will bottleneck, and so will the 1650. A second gen i5 just isn't good enough. 

 

I would either get like a used gtx 770 or just upgrade platforms to new ryzen or intel. 

Would the AMD Athlon 3000G do the trick? I dont have much budget for Cpu's if im getting a graphics card too.

[mahyar]

Just now, UndecidedPurchaser said:

Would the AMD Athlon 3000G do the trick? I dont have much budget for Cpu's if im getting a graphics card too.

well yeah 3000g is way better than i5 2400 but you n go with i7 2600 that is better than athlon 

[jtmoseley]

2 minutes ago, UndecidedPurchaser said:

Would the AMD Athlon 3000G do the trick? I dont have much budget for Cpu's if im getting a graphics card too.

Actually I apologize I looked up benchmarks and it actually isn't as slow as I thought it was. I would get a 770 or a 960 or a 1050ti or something

[UndecidedPurchaser]

20 minutes ago, jtmoseley said:

Actually I apologize I looked up benchmarks and it actually isn't as slow as I thought it was. I would get a 770 or a 960 or a 1050ti or something

 Well, im still gonna look up some better CPU's probably will save for christmas, im gonna get the 1650 so that i can undo the bottleneck by christmas.

 

Thanks.

[UndecidedPurchaser]

31 minutes ago, mahyar said:

well yeah 3000g is way better than i5 2400 but you n go with i7 2600 that is better than athlon 

I looked up if the gtx 1650 would bottleneck on the anthlon 3000g and apparently it doesnt, its only 50€ so i can afford it easily. However, the Intel Xeon E5-1660 v2 is also an option.(It's just 50 more € than the anthlon 3000g but im looking for better cpu performance overall at the same time)

[mahyar]

Just now, UndecidedPurchaser said:

I looked up if the gtx 1650 would bottleneck on the anthlon 3000g and apparently it doesnt, its only 50€ so i can afford it easily. However, the Intel Xeon E5-1660 v2 is also an option.

well 3000g is a pretty good cpu it can do 30 fps on AAA titles like red dead 2 and assassin's creed origins and odyssey

[UndecidedPurchaser]

Just now, mahyar said:

well 3000g is a pretty good cpu it can do 30 fps on AAA titles like red dead 2 and assassin's creed origins and odyssey

3000g + the new GPU is a good combination then. Cheap and quite a good setup.

[Mateyyy]

9 minutes ago, UndecidedPurchaser said:

3000g + the new GPU is a good combination then. Cheap and quite a good setup.

I think you'd be a lot better off just getting a used i7-2600 or 3770, and throwing that in your current motherboard.

[mahyar]

6 minutes ago, UndecidedPurchaser said:

3000g + the new GPU is a good combination then. Cheap and quite a good setup.

yes and if you want to go xeon that is also good btw  i suggest if your going am4 go with b450 instead of a320 because if you are lucky athlons can overclock pretty good

Edited October 10, 2020 by mahyar

[mahyar]

Just now, WikiForce said:

despite being much older, i think the i5 2400 shouldn't be far off from 3000g as it's a true quadcore while the athlon apu is only a dual core with HT

if you can't wait much longer i would suggest only upgrading gpu at this point because that cpu still isn't that bad for 1080p gaming at medium or even high in some cases, as another user suggested, look for a 1050 ti which should be a nice balance with minimum bottleneck

uhhh no 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Athlon-3000G-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2400/3614vs793

[UndecidedPurchaser]

6 minutes ago, WikiForce said:

despite being much older, i think the i5 2400 shouldn't be far off from 3000g as it's a true quadcore while the athlon apu is only a dual core with HT

if you can't wait much longer i would suggest only upgrading gpu at this point because that cpu still isn't that bad for 1080p gaming at medium or even high in some cases, as another user suggested, look for a 1050 ti which should be a nice balance with minimum bottleneck

But if i can upgrade both, my current cpu is worse than what you can think, it reaches it limits easily. Even tough the Anthlon 3000g may not be much of an upgrade it will surely do a lot in contrast.

[UndecidedPurchaser]

1 minute ago, WikiForce said:

then do what @Mateyyy suggested

I could only find 1 in stock on amazon. And it's 105€ 

[Mateyyy]

23 minutes ago, mahyar said:

uhhh no 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Athlon-3000G-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2400/3614vs793

At best, the Ryzen 1200 matches Intel's 2500K, and the 1200 is a 3000G with double the cores.

[mahyar]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

At best, the Ryzen 1200 matches Intel's 2500K, and the 1200 is a 3000G with double the cores.

2400 is locked and its weaker than 2500

[Mateyyy]

Just now, mahyar said:

2400 is locked and its weaker than 2500

The difference between the 2400 and 2500K is way smaller than the one between a Ryzen 1200 and a 3000G.

[mahyar]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

The difference between the 2400 and 2500K is way smaller than the one between a Ryzen 1200 and a 3000G.

well it is but 3000g has the upper hand 2400 is 10 years and well weaker

[Mateyyy]

13 minutes ago, mahyar said:

well it is but 3000g has the upper hand 2400 is 10 years and well weaker

So instead of getting a much stronger i7-2600(K) or 3770(K), OP should get a marginally better 3000G, along with a new motherboard and memory? Or what is it that you are trying to get to?

Sure you'd have an actual upgrade path if OP was to get a decent B450 board, but we're talking about a very strict budget here, from what I could see.

[mahyar]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

So instead of getting a much stronger i7-2600(K) or 3770(K), OP should get a marginally better 3000G, along with a new motherboard and memory? Or what are you trying to get to?

Sure you'd have an actual upgrade path if OP was to get a decent B450 board, but we're talking about a very strict budget here, from what I could see.

first i suggest to him a 2600

second he cant go for a k series or 3770