Low End GPU

[Elad.Evron]

In the last week I started looking into buying my little brother a "gaming" pc so he could Play Fortnite and I noticed that there are no real low end GPU that i could buy new in the market.

So I narrowed the options down to this: 

GTX 1050 / TI

GTX 1060

GTX 1650

RX 560 (I cant find one)

RX 570 

RX 5300 (when it comes out) 

Again, all new from a box that wasnt opned before. 

 

So the lowest I found was a 1050 for around 150$ and the rest were at list 200$ (I live in israel prices here are kinda pretty high). But thats not what Im want to say In this post. (well i Wanted to share my experience but I have something Else to say). 

 

I wanted to ask and start a discussion around why are there no real low end GPUs in the market, Ones that cost 75$ or at most 100$ that are meant for people who just want to play Fortnite, CS:GO, overwatch or any other Esports / not very dammanding games. something that lets say would run Fortnite at 80 FPS in medium in 1080, not a starong card at all. 

Now I know that the RX 560 is exactly what I said for preference but first I cant find Any for a reasanble price, and It costs at list 150$ for a New one on Amazon (with shipping) and thats a lot of money. 

 

Edit: There is no such thing as a used GPU market here and he has a Pc with an I5 8600

[mahyar]

first budget?

second why dont you go with an apu

[WereCat]

What about RX 470, RX 480, R9 390x, R9 390, R9 290x, R9 290, GTX 970, GTX 960, GTX 780, GTX 780ti?

(used, not new)

[Elad.Evron]

Just now, WereCat said:

What about RX 470, RX 480, R9 390x, R9 390, R9 290x, R9 290, GTX 970, GTX 960, GTX 780, GTX 780ti?

(used, not new)

First I want new hardware and sencond there are no such thing as a used graphics cards market here

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, Elad.Evron said:

 

I wanted to ask and start a discussion around why are there no real low end GPUs in the market, Ones that cost 75$ or at most 100$ that are meant for people who just want to play Fortnite, CS:GO, overwatch or any other Esports / not very dammanding games. something that lets say would run Fortnite at 80 FPS in medium in 1080, not a starong card at all. 

That used to be the GT 1030, for a couple months after it launched ($80 msrp). Then the price skyrocketed (somehow Nvidia didn't realize that the first GT card targeted towards gamers would be super popular and didn't make that many) and it was as expensive as a GTX 1050, back when that was still current gen. Then the mining boom rekt everything, and the GT 1030 and the GTX 1050 both jumped to $150 and never came back down.

 

Nowadays the cheap APUs are what you get. A Ryzen 3 3200G is great for esports titles at 1080p low. True, all the graphics cards you listed are a lot better (and even the GT 1030 GDDR5 outpaces the 3400G's integrated graphics) BUT the value is pretty excellent and the performance is fine.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Fasauceome

[mahyar]

if didnt buy anything go with an ryzen apu

[Elad.Evron]

3 minutes ago, mahyar said:

first budget?

second why dont you go with an apu

So he has a PC with an I5 8600 which has the strongest intel integrated (the UHD 630) and Fortnite runs at 30 FPS in 720 at medium 

[mahyar]

1 minute ago, Elad.Evron said:

So he has a PC with an I5 8600 which has the strongest intel integrated (the UHD 630) and Fortnite runs at 30 FPS in 720 at medium 

so an rx550 gt1030 gtx1050 and 1050ti are good choices

[Elad.Evron]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

That used to be the GT 1030, for a couple months after it launched ($80 msrp). Then the price skyrocketed (somehow Nvidia didn't realize that the first GT card targeted towards gamers would be super popular and didn't make that many) and it was as expensive as a GTX 1050, back when that was still current gen. Then the mining boom rekt everything, and the GT 1030 and the GTX 1050 both jumped to $150 and never came back down.

 

Nowadays the cheap APUs are what you get. A Ryzen 3 3200G is great for esports titles at 1080p low. True, all the graphics cards you listed are a lot better (and even the GT 1030 GDDR5 outpaces the 3400G's integrated graphics) BUT the value is pretty excellent and the performance is fine.

So that is not an option because he has a PC with an I5 8600 and im not buying him a whole new PC, I dont have th money and i just wated to bring up the general question because there is no current gen 1030 replacement 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Elad.Evron said:

So that is not an option because he has a PC with an I5 8600 and im not buying him a whole new PC, I dont have th money and i just wated to bring up the general question because there is no current gen 1030 replacement 

The budget GPU market basically doesn't exist right now. Nvidia and AMD are only releasing high end GPUs right now, with AMD's big navi coming soon. So, not the RX 5300.

[Elad.Evron]

i tought about the RX 550 but the 1050 is to expinsive and I jsut wanted to bring up the general question of low end current gen GPUs that dont exist 

[Elad.Evron]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

The budget GPU market basically doesn't exist right now. Nvidia and AMD are only releasing high end GPUs right now, with AMD's big navi coming soon. So, not the RX 5300.

It never existed in Israel, I tried to Get a 10x0 card before the 20x0 lunch for me and that market just doesnt exist here

[SavageNeo]

Just now, Elad.Evron said:

RX 550 but the 1050 is to expinsive

Nvidia does not make 1050's anymore so yes that is why they are expensive. rx 550 is ok, dbut i would get something little better for fortnite. like rx 570 or 1650-1650 super

[Elad.Evron]

3 minutes ago, mahyar said:

so an rx550 gt1030 gtx1050 and 1050ti are good choices

i tought about the RX 550 but the 1050 is to expinsive and I jsut wanted to bring up the general question of low end current gen GPUs that dont exist 

[Elad.Evron]

Just now, SavageNeo said:

Nvidia does not make 1050's anymore so yes that is why they are expensive. rx 550 is ok, dbut i would get something little better for fortnite. like rx 570 or 1650-1650 super

the cheapest 1650 new in israel (from a store that didint look too shady) is 690 Shekels which is around 200$ and RX 570 is also abit pricy here

[mahyar]

1 minute ago, Elad.Evron said:

i tought about the RX 550 but the 1050 is to expinsive and I jsut wanted to bring up the general question of low end current gen GPUs that dont exist 

well "lowend" current gen gpus are gtx1650 and 5500xt

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Elad.Evron said:

the cheapest 1650 new in israel (from a store that didint look too shady) is 690 Shekels which is around 200$ and RX 570 is also abit pricy here

from Nvidia the gt 1030 or gtc 1650 are the cheapest options if bought new. from Amd it is the rx 550,560 or 570 if bought new

[Elad.Evron]

1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

from Nvidia the gt 1030 or gtc 1650 are the cheapest options if bought new. from Amd it is the rx 550,560 or 570 if bought new

is the 1030 strong enaugh to run fortnite at 1080 medium at 60 or even 1080 low at 60? because if it is i will buy one, there are some that are around 60$ here (new from a box that was sitting on the shelf for prob 5 years, yes welcome to israel the land modern center for high-tech and startup companies) 

[Fasauceome]

If you're shopping online as well then this is the best value I can grab off pcpp

 

https://il.pcpartpicker.com/product/GLTrxr/sapphire-radeon-rx-550-4gb-pulse-video-card-11268-01-20g

 

Barely more expensive than the cheapest GT 1030 and a little more powerful in gaming

[Elad.Evron]

they are current gen RN but they are really expensive here 

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Elad.Evron said:

is the 1030 strong enaugh to run fortnite at 1080 medium at 60 or even 1080 low at 60?

on low yes. on medium probably. 

[Elad.Evron]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

If you're shopping online as well then this is the best value I can grab off pcpp

 

https://il.pcpartpicker.com/product/GLTrxr/sapphire-radeon-rx-550-4gb-pulse-video-card-11268-01-20g

 

Barely more expensive than the cheapest GT 1030 and a little more powerful in gaming

So I live in Israel and shipping and tax make everything twice as expensive so I need a store in israel 

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Elad.Evron said:

they are current gen RN but they are really expensive here 

Fasauceomne linked a product from Newegg isreal. you can buy it form there. the rx 550

[Elad.Evron]

Just now, SavageNeo said:

Fasauceomne linked a product from Newegg isreal. you can buy it form there. the rx 550

Ok let me explain something about newegg and amazon israel, when they say israel they mean that their website deos the dollars to shekels conversion and not me, it doesnt mean uts from someone in israel or that they dont need to ship it from somewhere and still have to pay taxs

[Elad.Evron]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

If you're shopping online as well then this is the best value I can grab off pcpp

 

https://il.pcpartpicker.com/product/GLTrxr/sapphire-radeon-rx-550-4gb-pulse-video-card-11268-01-20g

 

Barely more expensive than the cheapest GT 1030 and a little more powerful in gaming

bro that costs 180$