200Hz enough?

[SuperStroopwafel]

Hey guys,

 

I'm going to buy a new tv in April. I'm doing many research but I have a question. Is 200Hz enough?

 

What I will do:

- Watch many Football!

- Watching some movies (in 3D)

- A bit of gaming. (PC, or perhaps later PS4).

 

Or do I need to upgrade 400Hz?

 

Thanks!

 

BTW: what do you prefer, Passive or Active 3D?

[Cwazywazy]

Most movies and stuff are something like 24FPS if I'm correct. 200Hz is fine. (And most consoles only play games at 720p 30FPS.)

[The_Ginger_spoon]

yea that is more than fine it is great

 

[SuperStroopwafel]

Most movies and stuff are something like 24FPS if I'm correct. 200Hz is fine. (And most consoles only play games at 720p 30FPS.)

And for a nice football match too?

[acidydragon]

-snip-

I watch TV on 120hz, and can't notice motion blur, so you should be fine.

 

-I prefer no 3D... Personally I feel it's not up to par with regular viewing yet, and looks bad.

[Freaky_spider]

ahh, the marketing gimmick that is 200/any other Hz rediculously high number

 

you know that there is no media that is uploaded in 200Hz....

 

for example lets say a video is in 50 hz (easy round number i know that there isnt media in 50 hz)

 

it will show you the frame 4 times before going to another frame, thus you only have  50hz

[Freaky_spider]

And for a nice football match too?

that media isnt filmed at 200hz, not even close, probably 60 or even 30/24,

[SuperStroopwafel]

I watch TV on 120hz, and can't notice motion blur, so you should be fine.

 

-I prefer no 3D... Personally I feel it's not up to par with regular viewing yet, and looks bad.

Thanks.

[SuperStroopwafel]

ahh, the marketing gimmick that is 200/any other Hz rediculously high number

 

you know that there is no media that is uploaded in 200Hz....

 

for example lets say a video is in 50 hz (easy round number i know that there isnt media in 50 hz)

 

it will show you the frame 4 times before going to another frame, thus you only have  50hz

I get it, thanks!

[ForsakenLive]

Just what Freaky_spider said, the highest TV i've seen is true 120hz, all those other ridicusly high numbers are just loading the frames different, but they are not refreshing the pannel over 200 times a second.

I've watched 3D before and I didn't liked the experience, the glasses are not comfortable, and the picture quality decreases. Also there are many people that gets headaches when watching 3D on TVs

[scaryjam823]

Just what Freaky_spider said, the highest TV i've seen is true 120hz, all those other ridicusly high numbers are just loading the frames different, but they are not refreshing the pannel over 200 times a second.

I've watched 3D before and I didn't liked the experience, the glasses are not comfortable, and the picture quality decreases. Also there are many people that gets headaches when watching 3D on TVs

There are two types of 3d tvs, active and passive. Active 3d have glasses which have shutters that alternate between each eye. Letting each eye see 1080p, full quality in 3d. The disadvantage is some can see the shutter, it makes some people sick etc. On my tv with active glasses it looks pretty good, I can see the shutter at first but my eyes adjust and it becomes unnoticeable after 10 minutes. Passive 3d lets both eyes see the image at the same time, but at half the quality. Less prone to getting sick, but you lose half the image quality. The glasses vary with every manufacture and as time passes so to say don't get it because the one I tried was uncomfortable is idiotic at best.

 

To the op if you can handle it active 3d is better. I believe more people can than appear, they just don't give it a chance. Yes I feel weird at first, I can see the shutters flicker on and off (some can some can't), I also feel a little sick. But after 15 minutes at most all of this goes away. I think most people just don't understand it and give it a shot, they freak after the first second and form their opinion right then and there. 

[Bloodyvalley]

Just to clarify, it's not actually 200hz. It's just a gimmick. Marketing.

 

 

It's 120hz or lower.

[dalekphalm]

120Hz/240Hz HDTV's CAN be good, but they can also introduce a lot of artifacts or other distortion. If you watch mostly sports, then it does make things look smoother/more fluid.

 

Another option is to pick up a Plasma TV, which has a 600Hz subfield drive (NOT the same as 600Hz, as Plasma TV's operate on a completely different principle). Basically a Plasma TV keeps the light on only for tiny fractions of a second in "pulses". In particular, they will flash the pixel on 600 times per second. However, each flash is NOT an individual frame. Plasma TV's still have an effective Hz or frame-rate (Most being 48Hz or 72Hz if higher end).

 

The benefit of these TV's being in 48 or 72Hz is that the number is evenly divisible by 24 (2 and 3 times respectively). This makes 24p Blu-Ray content extremely pleasurable to watch (No need for 3:2 pulldown, like regular 60Hz TV's have). Similarly, 120Hz TV's also have this benefit (120 divided by 24 is 5, meaning they can hold every frame onto the screen for 5 times longer because the TV can cycle so much faster yet at the same ratio), but the problem is many 120Hz TV's aren't true 120Hz, only some are (generally the higher end and higher quality TV's).

 

Do your research, read LOTS of consumer reviews and feedback as well as expert reviews, and most importantly, if possible, try the TV out in person - Preferably in the darkened home theatre sections of electronics stores as this gives a much more realistic portrayal of the TV. Electronic stores have extremely bright and harsh lighting, which will wash out colours and give TV's with higher brightness ratings an unfair advantage, because brightness does NOT necessarily mean better picture quality. Unless you're putting the TV in direct sunlight at least.

[Ertman]

Most 120hz (actual) televisions generally only accept input signal at 60hz or less. The benefit to 120hz is the 24fps movies will divide evenly and there will be smoother playback. For watching films it's better to have motion enhancements turned off, sports generally benefit from them.

[mr moose]

There are two types of 3d tvs, active and passive. Active 3d have glasses which have shutters that alternate between each eye. Letting each eye see 1080p, full quality in 3d. The disadvantage is some can see the shutter, it makes some people sick etc. On my tv with active glasses it looks pretty good, I can see the shutter at first but my eyes adjust and it becomes unnoticeable after 10 minutes. Passive 3d lets both eyes see the image at the same time, but at half the quality. Less prone to getting sick, but you lose half the image quality. The glasses vary with every manufacture and as time passes so to say don't get it because the one I tried was uncomfortable is idiotic at best.

 

To the op if you can handle it active 3d is better. I believe more people can than appear, they just don't give it a chance. Yes I feel weird at first, I can see the shutters flicker on and off (some can some can't), I also feel a little sick. But after 15 minutes at most all of this goes away. I think most people just don't understand it and give it a shot, they freak after the first second and form their opinion right then and there. 

 

I always thought they alternated the image for passive.  What would be the advantage of displaying both images at the same time other than increase FPS?

[scaryjam823]

I always thought they alternated the image for passive.  What would be the advantage of displaying both images at the same time other than increase FPS?

When they display both images at the same time it cuts the resolution in half. One eye sees half the image, the other eye sees the other half. I assume it is better for those who get really sick with active glasses. Less likely to get sick and you can't see the active shutters for those who can. That's the only real advantages I can think of. Passive may also be cheaper and they don't require batteries.

[Cubit481]

Most 120hz (actual) televisions generally only accept input signal at 60hz or less.

Depends upon the input whether it is from a set top box or a htpc...etc...

[Ertman]

Depends upon the input whether it is from a set top box or a htpc...etc...

Not really.

[Cubit481]

Not really.

Source...???

[Ertman]

Source...???

TV manufacturers websites, various tech websites. Feel free to look up the specifications of the input on the TVs. There are ways around this on some compatible televisions.

 

Some TVs can do 75hz possibly other rates, but that also might vary on input.

 

Also for consideration, I said most not all, but I am not going to look up every television being manufactured.

[Cubit481]

TV manufacturers websites, various tech websites. Feel free to look up the specifications of the input on the TVs. There are ways around this on some compatible televisions.

 

Some TVs can do 75hz possibly other rates, but that also might vary on input.

 

Also for consideration, I said most not all, but I am not going to look up every television being manufactured.

Ok...