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Budget (including currency): 3000 GBP

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA games and gaming for the next 3-4 years

Other details: not sure if I want to go 1440P or 4K..

 

Hey all,

 

so basically I want to put together a

soljd rig that’ll last me 3-4 years again. I intend to play new and large games obviously. Choice of GPU would be a 3080 and CPU either Ryzen or Intel.. not quite sure.

 

Do you guys think 4K gaming is a real deal or still a gimmick and just stick with a good 1440P with high FPS?

 

I'm streaming every day, many AAA games, to entertain people and to get a hang of games that others are unable to play or want to see before they buy. 

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4 minutes ago, Tom_nerd said:

if you've got £3000 then I would recommend going for the 3090.

fax, 3090 will last at least 10 years performance wise, 

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Is the budget also meant to cover the monitor and peripherals?

Whether you should go for 1440p high refresh rate or 4K 60Hz kind of depends on what games you play. If you only play single-player story driven titles, 4K might be something I'd go for.

 

Just now, PentestingFTW said:

fax, 3090 will last at least 10 years performance wise, 

Yeah I don't know about that.

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1 minute ago, Tom_nerd said:

I agree with him because Ampere was a massive leap and has insane performance

How does a 10 year old GTX 580 or HD 6970 fare today?

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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Is the budget also meant to cover the monitor and peripherals?

Whether you should go for 1440p high refresh rate or 4K 60Hz kind of depends on what games you play. If you only play single-player story driven titles, 4K might be something I'd go for.

 

Yeah I don't know about that.

Well - I don’t need it to last 10 years. I’d like to make sure I can run everything maxed or almost for 3-5 years then just do a full upgrade whatever is new then.

 

I play MMOs, single player games. PUBG and so on. Quite a lot really - nothing is off the charts, except anime games..

I'm streaming every day, many AAA games, to entertain people and to get a hang of games that others are unable to play or want to see before they buy. 

Check my profile for my ultimate rig! http://linustechtips.com/main/user/109708-shift/

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Hey there!

 

It's very hard to say what 4K Gaming with a 3080 will be like before we see benchmarks. So far the only bench we've seen is with Ray Tracing enabled where naturally RTX cards are going to shine. You can put together the rest of a build now, but wait for bench to see if maybe a 3070 will be enough, or if something's up with Nvidia cards (every launch has a chance of there being driver issues / etc. that would advise customers to wait for the issues to be resolved before buying).

 

We're also expecting very low availability for the cards.

 

Now, disclaimers aside, here's the rest of the system for a maxed-out gaming build in 2020.

 

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CPU: Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (£551.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£84.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Steel Legend ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£174.96 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL15 Memory  (£139.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£129.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£58.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Light ATX Mid Tower Case  (£135.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£152.99 @ Box Limited)
Total: £1428.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-06 19:59 BST+0100

 

Notice that this fully maxed out build leaves a bunch of room for good monitors, RGB fans etc, or even an RTX 3090.

 

3 minutes ago, PentestingFTW said:

fax, 3090 will last at least 10 years performance wise, 

1 minute ago, Tom_nerd said:

I agree with him because Ampere was a massive leap and has insane performance

Careful about jumping the gun. We don't actually know Ampere's actual performance in non-RTX games (which at this point is a vast majority of them).

 

Unless you guys got early access to the product, in which case you're under NDA right now 😛

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4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Is the budget also meant to cover the monitor and peripherals?

Whether you should go for 1440p high refresh rate or 4K 60Hz kind of depends on what games you play. If you only play single-player story driven titles, 4K might be something I'd go for.

 

Yeah I don't know about that.

Well - I got everything except a monitor. I just need a new monitor - thing is, the RTX 3080 did over 60 FPS in 4K now - but I wonder how it would fare in that in a few years. Whereas at 1440 it would chew through everything for a long while.

I'm streaming every day, many AAA games, to entertain people and to get a hang of games that others are unable to play or want to see before they buy. 

Check my profile for my ultimate rig! http://linustechtips.com/main/user/109708-shift/

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Just now, SHiFT said:

Well - I got everything except a monitor. I just need a new monitor - thing is, the RTX 3080 did over 60 FPS in 4K now - but I wonder how it would fare in that in a few years. Whereas at 1440 it would chew through everything for a long while.

Careful with that kind of statement. What game was that? What settings? We don't know.

 

But anyway, if you're missing a good monitor I'd check out some review sites' best picks like these

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-4k-gaming-monitors-pc-144hz,6023.html

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/gaming-monitors-4k

 

I'm personally a fan of the Acer Predator X27 for high-budget builds with an Nvidia GPU.

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8 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Is the budget also meant to cover the monitor and peripherals?

Whether you should go for 1440p high refresh rate or 4K 60Hz kind of depends on what games you play. If you only play single-player story driven titles, 4K might be something I'd go for.

 

Yeah I don't know about that.

i mean before it goes obsolete, because the 3090 is the RTX Titans replacement and alot more powerful, even if you cant keep it alive for 4-6 years its still worth the investment imo

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1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Careful with that kind of statement. What game was that? What settings? We don't know.

 

But anyway, if you're missing a good monitor I'd check out some review sites' best picks like these

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-4k-gaming-monitors-pc-144hz,6023.html

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/gaming-monitors-4k

 

I'm personally a fan of the Acer Predator X27 for high-budget builds with an Nvidia GPU.

It’s from Nvidia’s one thing. But even now in control and stuff just above 60 FPS in 4K. So not sure - 1440 might be a better mix of best of both worlds still..

I'm streaming every day, many AAA games, to entertain people and to get a hang of games that others are unable to play or want to see before they buy. 

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16 minutes ago, SHiFT said:

Budget (including currency): 3000 GBP

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA games and gaming for the next 3-4 years

Other details: not sure if I want to go 1440P or 4K..

 

Hey all,

 

so basically I want to put together a

soljd rig that’ll last me 3-4 years again. I intend to play new and large games obviously. Choice of GPU would be a 3080 and CPU either Ryzen or Intel.. not quite sure.

 

Do you guys think 4K gaming is a real deal or still a gimmick and just stick with a good 1440P with high FPS?

 

I agree with Energycore, Start with the monitor, most 4K monitors compromise somewhere (low refresh rate, bad latency, no HDR) find your monitor(s) then built your system around it. at 4K a 3080 should be fine considering 3090 is built for 8K.

 

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Just now, Quickstrike said:

I agree with Energycore, Start with the monitor, most 4K monitors compromise somewhere (low refresh rate, bad latency, no HDR) find your monitor(s) then built your system around it. at 4K a 3080 should be fine considering 3090 is built for 8K.

 

Yeah - but will I be able to achieve high FPS in 4K in 4 years time too? Not sure. Would I be able to in 1440P? Quite more likely.

I'm streaming every day, many AAA games, to entertain people and to get a hang of games that others are unable to play or want to see before they buy. 

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5 minutes ago, SHiFT said:

It’s from Nvidia’s one thing. But even now in control and stuff just above 60 FPS in 4K. So not sure - 1440 might be a better mix of best of both worlds still..

Just remember that Nvidia's marketing is that - marketing. Independent review sites will give you unbiased, real information about how the card will perform in the games that you actually play / want to play. RTX at this point is still a gimmick - very few games support it so far.

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

Computer Specs:

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Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
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Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

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Just now, Energycore said:

Just remember that Nvidia's marketing is that - marketing. Independent review sites will give you unbiased, real information about how the card will perform in the games that you actually play / want to play. RTX at this point is still a gimmick - very few games support it so far.

Yep, I know. RTX for me is not a factor. But the 3080 performance at the price is very pleasing. I do not need a TITAN like card in the 3090 - I’m not doing such work in my PC. I also need to decide if intel or Amd For CPU 

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15 minutes ago, SHiFT said:

Well - I don’t need it to last 10 years. I’d like to make sure I can run everything maxed or almost for 3-5 years then just do a full upgrade whatever is new then.

 

I play MMOs, single player games. PUBG and so on. Quite a lot really - nothing is off the charts, except anime games..

14 minutes ago, SHiFT said:

Well - I got everything except a monitor. I just need a new monitor - thing is, the RTX 3080 did over 60 FPS in 4K now - but I wonder how it would fare in that in a few years. Whereas at 1440 it would chew through everything for a long while.

Right. Well 3000 quid is pretty excessive just for a gaming setup, you don't need to go that high, even if you want to not have to upgrade it for the next 3-5 years.

 

Here's what I'd recommend if you want to purchase the parts now (well, now as in after Ampere releases):

And you can certainly drop the price even further.

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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Right. Well 3000 quid is pretty excessive just for a gaming setup, you don't need to go that high, even if you want to not have to upgrade it for the next 3-5 years.

 

Here's what I'd recommend if you want to purchase the parts now (well, now as in after Ampere releases):

And you can certainly drop the price even further.

Well - throw in a monitor and a non reference 3080 and the budget is already hit 😛

I'm streaming every day, many AAA games, to entertain people and to get a hang of games that others are unable to play or want to see before they buy. 

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Just now, SHiFT said:

But the 3080 performance at the price is very pleasing

We don't know performance numbers outside of RTX games though, that's the point. Nvidia's marketing showed only RTX performance, and so did the DigitalFoundry sponsored benchmarks. It's probably still the right pick (there's nothing to compete with it) but as I mentioned above, it might mean having to wait for availability and for issues to be resolved.

1 minute ago, SHiFT said:

I also need to decide if intel or Amd For CPU 

For gaming only, the Intel 10900K is still at the top. At any price point other than ultra high end I'd recommend AMD, but you have the money to drop on the i7 part.

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

Computer Specs:

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Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333

Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR

 

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10 minutes ago, SHiFT said:

Well - throw in a monitor and a non reference 3080 and the budget is already hit 😛

That's including the 3080 and monitor.

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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

That's including the 3080 and monitor.

Oops. Missed that on the phone. Well - 3K is the roof basically. Future proofing 😃

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