Best used am4 CPU on tight budget

[Stargaze obama]

Looking for a temporary CPU replacement since my x79 board died I got myself an am4 board and 8gb of 3200 viper ram, for now it's single channel but I will get another stick and new CPU, but I need to actually buy the CPU, I have around a £30 budget/$40 and I've seen amds A12 9800 used for £25, is this a bad buy, I would be using it for a few months at most and only play games like apex legends and Forza horizon 4, pretty much it

[Haro]

For around 50ish bucks you can get a 1200 af new if you can find one, as for used, a used 1200 or maybe a 1600 if you can find one for that price.

 

what board is that?

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Stargaze obama said:

I've seen amds A12 9800 used for £25

terrible option, only compatible with early BIOS revisions on first gen boards.

[Stargaze obama]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

For around 50ish bucks you can get a 1200 af new if you can find one, as for used, a used 1200 or maybe a 1600 if you can find one for that price.

 

what board is that?

Just an a320 board from ASRock

 

My budget is £30, I cannot spend more than that, what about the 3000g? Seems like a worthy competitor

[Stargaze obama]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

terrible option, only compatible with early BIOS revisions on first gen boards.

Oh thanks for the info, would a 3000g be a better option? Forgot to mention I'm running an RX 570, not the intergrated gpu

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Stargaze obama said:

would a 3000g be a better option

Would be a lot better. If a 3000g is the best thing that you can get then yes it's a lot better. 

[Stargaze obama]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Would be a lot better. If a 3000g is the best thing that you can get then yes it's a lot better. 

Ok then, just because the 9800 is a quad core, wasn't sure how it's architecture faired and struggled to actually find benchmarks anywhere, most of them were estimates

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Stargaze obama said:

most of them were estimates

well there is more to a cpu than that, there's the ipc and the fpu, the cache layout etc.

[Stargaze obama]

6 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

well there is more to a cpu than that, there's the ipc and the fpu, the cache layout etc.

Yes, but games are favouring more cores and coming from a Xeon 2630 it's quite a few threads and cores less, I've never even had a dual core so I'm not sure what my  frames are going to be like, stable or not ect

[Stargaze obama]

9 minutes ago, CircleTech said:

as others have said look for a Ryzen 5 1200. 

I have been using my 360 as entertainment during lockdown, my motherboard died 2 months ago and I've been saving for a system since, I do not want to sell anything else, I would rather suffer lower frames and stutters on some games than wait for my quarantine to be over when I can get another job, so I'd like a 1200, I can't afford one or I will be waiting until next year when zen 3 is out and the 1200 is at a reasonable used price, it's currently£70/£100 and I haven't seen it cheaper apart from china, I don't want to wait

[Som3a]

1 minute ago, Stargaze obama said:

Yes, but games are favouring more cores and coming from a Xeon 2630 it's quite a few threads and cores less, I've never even had a dual core so I'm not sure what my  frames are going to be like, stable or not ect

the 3000g will be fine as a temporary CPU, if you're only using it for a few months it would be better to get a new dual core than getting a discontinued 4 core that barely has any support. The 3000g is also on the 14nm process which won't require any BIOS updates for older AM4 boards

[Stargaze obama]

3 minutes ago, Som3a said:

the 3000g will be fine as a temporary CPU, if you're only using it for a few months it would be better to get a new dual core than getting a discontinued 4 core that barely has any support. The 3000g is also on the 14nm process which won't require any BIOS updates for older AM4 boards

Thanks, my final option then

[Som3a]

1 minute ago, Stargaze obama said:

Thanks, my final option then

No problem and good luck!

[Fasauceome]

24 minutes ago, Stargaze obama said:

Oh thanks for the info, would a 3000g be a better option? Forgot to mention I'm running an RX 570, not the intergrated gpu

If you can get it on the cheap, it's far from a terrible CPU. As long as you're sure the motherboard is compatible, since it is a third gen CPU and will require a recent BIOS, despite the fact that it only uses first gen Zen architecture.

[Stargaze obama]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

If you can get it on the cheap, it's far from a terrible CPU. As long as you're sure the motherboard is compatible, since it is a third gen CPU and will require a recent BIOS, despite the fact that it only uses first gen Zen architecture.

My board does support it, running the latest bios as I got it used, made sure they person updated it for me

[Guest]

Look for Ryzen 5 1400. 4 c 8t. I Have one. Really decent cpu. No igp though.

[Som3a]

Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

Look for Ryzen 5 1400. 4 c 8t. I Have one. Really decent cpu. No igp though.

we did suggest a 1200 but it's out of his budget, i doubt a 1400 will be within it

[Guest]

Just now, Som3a said:

we did suggest a 1200 but it's out of his budget, i doubt a 1400 will be within it

I have one of those too. I dont suggest that cpu because of lack of threads.

 

But now a realization, perhaps a 200 or 220ge would suffice until a later time when funds are better. I have one of each of those as well. 

[Stargaze obama]

Just now, Som3a said:

we did suggest a 1200 but it's out of his budget, i doubt a 1400 will be within it

I'd love a 1200 but it's literally not possible at all, their prices has risen and haven't fallen at all, I will probably buy a 2600 once I get back into work but this is purely a place holder, I don't need a powerful chip anyway

[Stargaze obama]

Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

I have one of those too. I dont suggest that cpu because of lack of threads.

 

But now a realization, perhaps a 200 or 220ge would suffice until a later time when funds are better. I have one of each of those as well. 

Why do you have so many ryzens and not use them? Or do you use them?

[Guest]

200ge is as cheap as they come. Get that.

[Guest]

Just now, Stargaze obama said:

Why do you have so many ryzens and not use them? Or do you use them?

I did the 200 and 200ge, one for delid experiment ( not soldered) and the other is my wife's office PC.

 

I also did the 1200 for HTPC but lacked the threads so bought the 1400. The 1200 I delidded for experiment and turned out to be soldered. 

 

My brother now has the 1400.

I also have a 2700x which you see in my avatar.

 

Then the 3000 series came out and the price increase wasn't good. No reason to upgrade a 2700x for 10 lousy percent IPC.

 

Lastly, tldr, I'm an enthusiast more than a gamer.

[Stargaze obama]

7 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I did the 200 and 200ge, one for delid experiment ( not soldered) and the other is my wife's office PC.

 

I also did the 1200 for HTPC but lacked the threads so bought the 1400. The 1200 I delidded for experiment and turned out to be soldered. 

 

My brother now has the 1400.

I also have a 2700x which you see in my avatar.

 

Then the 3000 series came out and the price increase wasn't good. No reason to upgrade a 2700x for 10 lousy percent IPC.

 

Lastly, tldr, I'm an enthusiast more than a gamer.

Oh I see, just amd parts or anything Intel or older chips?

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, Stargaze obama said:

Oh I see, just amd parts or anything Intel or older chips?

Have 8700K that I use strictly for 3D competitive benchmarking.

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[Stargaze obama]

10 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Have 8700K that I use strictly for 3D competitive benchmarking.

You just see who has the best oc? Sounds expensive and time consuming