Cooler for stock 3900x

[SnooPainting8310]

I bought the 34 esport duo as it cool 5c less than the nh-d15 according to this comparison.

Is that a good choice to cool a stock 3900x ?

(also note that my 3900x will be bottlenecked by my 2133 mhz ram, but it shouldn't be too much of an issue according to this video)

 

More info : I won't use it for rendering but for active work like this.

[boggy77]

yes, the arctic one is adequate

[SnooPainting8310]

6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

yes, the arctic one is adequate

Ok thanks !

[SnooPainting8310]

Also how of an issue will the 2133 mhz be ? 

[jaslion]

8 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

Also how of an issue will the 2133 mhz be ? 

10-15% performance loss. Why buy that ram? If you already have it then just overclock it if possible.

[boggy77]

9 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

Also how of an issue will the 2133 mhz be ? 

depends on the application, but it could be as much as a 30% performance loss.

[SnooPainting8310]

11 minutes ago, jaslion said:

10-15% performance loss. Why buy that ram? If you already have it then just overclock it if possible.

Those are my old rams, I'll buy 3600 when my old components will be sold

[SnooPainting8310]

13 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

depends on the application, but it could be as much as a 30% performance loss.

I actually expected 50% loss, so that's a good news !

 

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

I actually expected 50% loss, so that's a good news !

 

Depends on the task but on average expect at least a 10-15% drop. Some rendering tasks and games have a far worse performance gap tho so depends on the things you do.

[Haro]

46 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

bought the 34 esport duo as it cool 5c less than the nh-d15 according to this comparison.

That's just false. 

But it's enough for a 3900x. 

[SnooPainting8310]

10 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That's just false. 

But it's enough for a 3900x. 

May be the video isn't accurate but this is what is shown in it, FACT.

And I am actually wandering if I should not just send back the 34 esport duo and use the stock cooler that comes with the cpu ? So I can save money for other component ?

[Haro]

10 hours ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

And I am actually wandering if I should not just send back the 34 esport duo and use the stock cooler that comes with the cpu ? So I can save money for other component ?

i mean the 34 will perform better than the stock cooler and will probably be quieter, depends on how much you value that.

[SnooPainting8310]

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

i mean the 34 will perform better than the stock cooler and will probably be quieter, depends on how much you value that.

I mean is it safe for active multi threaded task ? But not as full multi threaded as rendering ? In this video you have the exact utilization of the cores that I am going to do, does that heat a lot the cpu ? Could a stock cooler keep that under 60c ?

[Haro]

10 hours ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

Could a stock cooler keep that under 60c ?

Nope sadly, but anything around 85c wont throttle the cpu. 

but as i said..

10 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

the 34 will perform better than the stock cooler and will probably be quieter, depends on how much you value that.

^.

[SnooPainting8310]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Nope sadly, but anything around 85c wont throttle the cpu. 

but as i said..

^.

I mean the lowest it heat the more long it'll live soooo

[Haro]

6 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

mean the lowest it heat the more long it'll live soooo

To a certain point I guess. 

A cpu running at 85c is completely safe. 

[SnooPainting8310]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

To a certain point I guess. 

A cpu running at 85c is completely safe. 

So aside from the noise gap, it's basically useless to go with the arctic ?

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

it's basically useless to go with the arctic ?

No it isn't. 

As I said it will run it cooler. Depends on how much you value that. 

You could test with the stock cooler and check. 

Or just watch an actual video from a reputable source and check temps with a stock cooler and decide. 

[SnooPainting8310]

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

No it isn't. 

As I said it will run it cooler. Depends on how much you value that. 

You could test with the stock cooler and check. 

Or just watch an actual video from a reputable source and check temps with a stock cooler and decide. 

 

Why is that video not reliable ?

And compared to intel's stock cooler how does the amd one compares ? Do they have the same performances ?

[Haro]

7 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

Do they have the same performances ?

Intel's stock is worse. 

As I said check how the stock performs and then decide if you want to return the cooler or not. 

8 minutes ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

Why is that video not reliable

Saying that a d15 performs worse than a 34 is just wrong. 

[SnooPainting8310]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Intel's stock is worse. 

As I said check how the stock performs and then decide if you want to return the cooler or not. 

Saying that a d15 performs worse than a 34 is just wrong. 

I never said that, the d15 does performs better !!! What I said is that it is 5c degree behind on one test, the gap is just not that big.

And the 34 esport actually keep a 95w cpu under 60c, which correspond to approximately the power used by an active stock 3900x. So it's very satisfying result !

[Haro]

10 hours ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

the gap is just not that big.

ah i misread that lol my bad.

 

10 hours ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

which correspond to approximately the power used by an active stock 3900x. So it's very satisfying result !

yea as i said, if it's worth it or not depends on how you value that. but yea it's better than the stock cooler.

[Jeppes]

19 hours ago, SnooPainting8310 said:

I never said that, the d15 does performs better !!! What I said is that it is 5c degree behind on one test, the gap is just not that big.

And the 34 esport actually keep a 95w cpu under 60c, which correspond to approximately the power used by an active stock 3900x. So it's very satisfying result !

3900X is not a 95W cpu on stock. It might drop to it if thermals are bad enough but with a decent cooler it will be 140-150W:s on full load.

[SnooPainting8310]

5 hours ago, Jeppes said:

3900X is not a 95W cpu on stock. It might drop to it if thermals are bad enough but with a decent cooler it will be 140-150W:s on full load.

Yeah, stock 3900x goes around 142w according to ryzen master, 105w tdp, I did the math and according to it, the cpu will be arround 75c-80c if I engage it in a full-core sustained load (sustained 142w).

But I won't even do that, I'm just doing 3d modeling, not rendering.

[SnooPainting8310]

On 8/21/2020 at 7:50 PM, TofuHaroto said:

Intel's stock is worse. 

As I said check how the stock performs and then decide if you want to return the cooler or not. 

Saying that a d15 performs worse than a 34 is just wrong. 

UPDATE : I finally got my 3900x, tested it with the arctic duo and it hardly go over 75c (wavering between 50-65c most of the time) for what I do... In fact, the highest temp I managed to achieve was 77c (thou If i persist I am sure I can go higher), sound promising !