next gen 4k 120hz graphics card price

[Maki_Thunderbolt]

How much do you estimate the new graphics card will cost so i will be able to run the native 4k 120fps on my new LG CX55? waiting on the magical HDMI 2.1

 

I know we probably have a date for the big announcement in a couple of weeks but i need to decide if I will buy my PC now and add the card when it’s released or do i have to wait until the card is announced to know what parts to pick for the PC?

I built my pc back in 2000 but haven’t since then and so am very unsure of weather i would be capable of building it myself.

 

Some kind forum members have given me a few UK based PC shops and one of them is building into that lovely NZXT H1. That shop will be selling the NZXT on it’s own in september hopefully but it has been delayed since july. 

I am able to budget for about £2000  and am also fine with bigger form factor cases.

I AM keen to spend on the case and the rgb’s if I find the right design as the centrepiece next to my tv in the lounge.

Ryzen processor is a must.

 

Any advice would be super appreciated please! 

 

Bw, Annie

[gloop]

11 minutes ago, Maki_Thunderbolt said:

unsure of weather i would be capable of building it myself

You definitely can if you built one in 2000. 
 

It’s gotten a lot easier, so easy it can be described as ‘adult but expensive LEGOs’

[Ralf]

17 minutes ago, Maki_Thunderbolt said:

How much do you estimate the new graphics card will cost so i will be able to run the native 4k 120fps on my new LG CX55? waiting on the magical HDMI 2.1

 

Some kind forum members have given me a few UK based PC shops and one of them is building into that lovely NZXT H1. That shop will be selling the NZXT on it’s own in september hopefully but it has been delayed since july. 

I am able to budget for about £2000  and am also fine with bigger form factor cases.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but £2000 wont be enough for a build with the next gen top dog nvidia card. Furthermore I doubt you can play in 4k 120Hz, unless you mean old games or esports.

[SpookyCitrus]

The new cards haven't really had any specs shown or what their pricing will be like, the rumor is the 3080 is a 20% increase in performance over the 2080ti but there is no way for us to know for sure until September 1st when they are announced. 4K 120hz is incredibly difficult to run especially if you're talking playing the game at higher settings and actually getting 120fps to match the refresh rate. I'd say we're still a couple years out before we get a single card that is capable of 120fps in AAA titles at higher settings and 4K native resolution, with current hardware a 9900k(or better) with dual 2080ti GPUs is barely capable. If you are playing Esports or Indie games it will likely be achievable, but AAA games are a whole different ball park. If there is a card close to capable in this lineup it would likely be the 3080ti which knowing how Nvidia's been with pricing you're likely looking at minimum $1200 for the GPU alone, likely more. I'd wait for benchmarks to see if your goal is even attainable at this point in time with your budget and expectations.

Personally I prefer 2K(1440p) at 144hz, the resolution difference between 2K and 4K is barely noticeable in my experience and it's a hell of a lot easier to run, you could easily build a computer within your budget when the new CPUs and GPUs drop to run 2K 144hz. 

[gloop]

A 3080ti (or whatever its called) isn't supposed to gain much in raw performance in games (around 20% like @SpookyCitrus said). However, there is upto a 60% boost in Ray Tracing performance expected.

[Maki_Thunderbolt]

1 hour ago, SpookyCitrus said:

The new cards haven't really had any specs shown or what their pricing will be like, the rumor is the 3080 is a 20% increase in performance over the 2080ti but there is no way for us to know for sure until September 1st when they are announced. 4K 120hz is incredibly difficult to run especially if you're talking playing the game at higher settings and actually getting 120fps to match the refresh rate. I'd say we're still a couple years out before we get a single card that is capable of 120fps in AAA titles at higher settings and 4K native resolution, with current hardware a 9900k(or better) with dual 2080ti GPUs is barely capable. If you are playing Esports or Indie games it will likely be achievable, but AAA games are a whole different ball park. If there is a card close to capable in this lineup it would likely be the 3080ti which knowing how Nvidia's been with pricing you're likely looking at minimum $1200 for the GPU alone, likely more. I'd wait for benchmarks to see if your goal is even attainable at this point in time with your budget and expectations.

Personally I prefer 2K(1440p) at 144hz, the resolution difference between 2K and 4K is barely noticeable in my experience and it's a hell of a lot easier to run, you could easily build a computer within your budget when the new CPUs and GPUs drop to run 2K 144hz. 

These are great points!

 

So is 1440p on the LG 120Hz tv the best thing to aim for?

 

The game i play is an ARPG and the fighting would definitely benefit from a higher frame rate although players say that the game is poorly optimised on the PC version.

Once i am no longer stuck with my ipad, i will like to discover PC games that i pay upfront for and don’t ruin me financially with Loot boxes! so i’ll be looking for new titles to discover.

 

Is the 1440p route the $1200 option?

 

I had No idea the 4k dream is still a few years off that’s why i know you guys would be so helpful!!!

[Maki_Thunderbolt]

2 hours ago, gloop said:

You definitely can if you built one in 2000. 
 

It’s gotten a lot easier, so easy it can be described as ‘adult but expensive LEGOs’

thank you so much

you know what you are doing though and i had a classmate helping me make that PC. 

What with all the cable managment and knowing what to put where, i am just wondering what i will do when i get stuck!!!

[SpookyCitrus]

4 hours ago, Maki_Thunderbolt said:

So is 1440p on the LG 120Hz tv the best thing to aim for?

No, I personally wouldn't go for a TV, a nice 1440p 144hz/165hz gaming monitor is what I was referring to. The LG 120HZ TV(The LG C9) is 4K and I don't think it has a 1440p native resolution version it would be 4K scaling down to 1440p, 1440p isn't common for TVs. Plus it's a $1500 USD minimum TV, that's 3/4 of your budget for the computer.

5 hours ago, Maki_Thunderbolt said:

Is the 1440p route the $1200 option?

When I said $1200 that was referring to the cost of just the GPU not the whole system, the 2080ti is $1200 USD alone, the 3080ti will be at least that. A nice 1440p gaming system plus a nice monitor would be in the $1800 to $2000 range for both the system and monitor.

 

I would recommend waiting for the new CPUs and GPUs to come out before asking what to get, we can make you a parts list once they are available for sale. The best thing for you to do is to wait a month or two after the new ones come out and see if there are any problems, don't want to go in early on an RTX 30xx and have it break or have to be RMAd, just like what happened with the RTX 2080ti FEs at launch. I like to wait a couple months for the kinks to get ironed out before I buy new GPUs or CPUs.

[xg32]

5 hours ago, Maki_Thunderbolt said:

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they won't run 4k/120 on max settings imho, it'd be closer to like 90-100fps given that the 2080 ti runs hitman at 70 and can't even run rdr2 at 4k. With DLSS? maybe.

 

the rumored specs are 30% faster without dlss, 24gb of ram etc, my current guess given how the 2080 ti would be 1500usd for the top card with 24gb of ram, 3080 20gb version would be 1k and 3080 10gb will be 750-800. Real inflation the past 2 year's been about 50% but i don't see nvidia pricing the cards higher than 1500....but jensen can surprise.

 

Prices are made up last minute so it's hard to get it right.

[Maki_Thunderbolt]

On 8/13/2020 at 12:26 AM, SpookyCitrus said:

No, I personally wouldn't go for a TV, a nice 1440p 144hz/165hz gaming monitor is what I was referring to. The LG 120HZ TV(The LG C9) is 4K and I don't think it has a 1440p native resolution version it would be 4K scaling down to 1440p, 1440p isn't common for TVs. Plus it's a $1500 USD minimum TV, that's 3/4 of your budget for the computer.

When I said $1200 that was referring to the cost of just the GPU not the whole system, the 2080ti is $1200 USD alone, the 3080ti will be at least that. A nice 1440p gaming system plus a nice monitor would be in the $1800 to $2000 range for both the system and monitor.

 

I would recommend waiting for the new CPUs and GPUs to come out before asking what to get, we can make you a parts list once they are available for sale. The best thing for you to do is to wait a month or two after the new ones come out and see if there are any problems, don't want to go in early on an RTX 30xx and have it break or have to be RMAd, just like what happened with the RTX 2080ti FEs at launch. I like to wait a couple months for the kinks to get ironed out before I buy new GPUs or CPUs.

sorry @SpookyCitrus i did not clarify, what i have bought already is the LG CX55 native4k 120HZ that i haven’t been able to make use of as of yet until we have HDMI 2.1 cards and i think you are right it doesn’t have native 1440p.

I can add a good £2000 now for the whole PC system.

 

Seeing as all i have is a mini potato PC a friend lent me and it only has 2GB ram, i can not install the game I play on it as it requires a good 4 GB ram to run.

 

if we are talking waiting 2, 3 months, what should i do?

 

is there a PC build that would have all the compatible motherboard etc for the next gen stuff but using a cheap cpu and graphics card i can swap for the next gen ones in a few months time or do i have to wait because there are details you need to know about the next gen parts once they are released before you can pick the rest of the parts?

 

that’s a long time to wait before i can have a functional PC... because every day feels like a month during covid and once i have a PC i will have my gaming dreams come true but i will also be able to figure out what work i can find online....

 

Or is it worth just buying a stop-gap modern potato pc for a few hundred bucks just to tide me over and at least have 4gb of ram to run my game!!!

 

thanks so much for everyone’s help!!!

[Maki_Thunderbolt]

On 8/13/2020 at 12:31 AM, xg32 said:

they won't run 4k/120 on max settings imho, it'd be closer to like 90-100fps given that the 2080 ti runs hitman at 70 and can't even run rdr2 at 4k. With DLSS? maybe.

 

the rumored specs are 30% faster without dlss, 24gb of ram etc, my current guess given how the 2080 ti would be 1500usd for the top card with 24gb of ram, 3080 20gb version would be 1k and 3080 10gb will be 750-800. Real inflation the past 2 year's been about 50% but i don't see nvidia pricing the cards higher than 1500....but jensen can surprise.

 

Prices are made up last minute so it's hard to get it right.

thanks @xg32

 

the PC version of the game i play apparently runs fine at 120 fps on pretty old PC’s even old laptops without dedicated graphics cards but my old potato PC only has 2 GB ram so won’t run it.

Do you think it’s worth just buying a modern potato PC for a few hundred bucks as a stop-gap?

 

thanks again! 

[SpookyCitrus]

@Maki_Thunderbolt Right now is literally the worst time to buy/build a computer. Personally I'd wait, the new GPUs are being announced on September 1st. You can definitely build a computer now that will be able to run 4K 60fps maybe 4K 120fps on the older game you play, but you're 120hz TV will not be fully utilized in most games. If you want the best performance possible at 4K 120hz you will want to wait for the new cards.