Where are all the 7.2k RPM high storage drives?

[CZTROLLOLCZ]

Im buying a new nvme ssd as a boot drive (512GB) and have a 1TB drive in currently, looking into buying a new high-storage drive, something thats about 4TB preferably (case is the Phanteks P400S so I can fit in 2hdds before needing to buy cages), now Ill be using this for games, videos, movies and some archival-type storage, but looking online the highest storage 7.2k rpm HDD is a WD Black, but they cost about twice as much as the 5.4k rpm WD Blue, with the same space. The highest a 7.2k rpm drive goes is wd blue at 1TB and a barracuda at 2TB.

Now from some basic research most people are recommending 7.2k drive for things like games, since its faster. (I wont be able to fit most of my games on the 512GB with Windows, some videos for editing). What solution would you guys recommend?

 

Sources: https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-blue-hdd https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-hdd https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/3-5-barracudaDS1900-14-2007US-en_US.pdf

[Pickles von Brine]

https://www.newegg.com/gold-wd181kryz-18tb/p/N82E16822234420?Item=N82E16822234420&quicklink=true

Chief, I am not sure where you are looking, but they exist...

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100167523 8000 4841 600457686 50001306

Most consumer drives cap out at 4TB, but larger drives exist but int the form of NAS drives. 99% of consumers do not need more than 2TB. Let alone 1TB. 

Also, large capacity with higher RPM is harder to do. Aerial density, read and write head sensitivity, response, accuracy, ride heights, the ability for said heads to pickup said data, etc all come into play. Thus, most drives that are 8+ TB are generally going to be slower spinning speeds. Doesn't mean they won't be slow. The 8TB 5400RPM drives we have at work do about 180MB/s

[SupaKomputa]

7200rpm is pretty easy to find, you don't need WD Black.

Try Hitachi or Toshiba too. Those are better than WD or SG.

[vanished]

It's worth noting that high RPM is less necessary with high capacities because the whole point of that is to get more bits flying under the needle per second, but by packing more bits into the same space, that is inherently achieved anyway without even increasing speed.  I think a lot of the 7200 RPM obsession is a hold over from 10+ years ago where it really mattered, but I would bet that a 5400 or 5900 RPM drive from today, which is going to be at least 1 or 2 TB+, would outperform a 7200 RPM drive from back then when sizes were more likely to be 300 GB or less.

[CZTROLLOLCZ]

9 minutes ago, Pickles - Lord of the Jar said:

https://www.newegg.com/gold-wd181kryz-18tb/p/N82E16822234420?Item=N82E16822234420&quicklink=true

Chief, I am not sure where you are looking, but they exist...

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100167523 8000 4841 600457686 50001306

Most consumer drives cap out at 4TB, but larger drives exist but int the form of NAS drives. 99% of consumers do not need more than 2TB. Let alone 1TB. 

Also, large capacity with higher RPM is harder to do. Aerial density, read and write head sensitivity, response, accuracy, ride heights, the ability for said heads to pickup said data, etc all come into play. Thus, most drives that are 8+ TB are generally going to be slower spinning speeds. Doesn't mean they won't be slow. The 8TB 5400RPM drives we have at work do about 180MB/s

Did you even read the whole post?

 

WD Gold drives: 1) are enterprise drives 2) cost as much as wd black drives

I dont think you understood my post "chief"

 

 

 

 

[CZTROLLOLCZ]

7 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

7200rpm is pretty easy to find, you don't need WD Black.

Try Hitachi or Toshiba too. Those are better than WD or SG.

Unfortunately I cant get Toshiba/Hitachi where I live

[SupaKomputa]

4TB 5400rpm not as bad as you think. If you cannot find 7200 at your place, 5400 will do just fine.

In the old days 5400 vs 7200 difference is huge, but with the advancing tech, you won't notice it.

7200 trumps in continuous file copy. In gaming loading time, difference is miniscule. 

If you have a fast boot drive (SSD) and enough ram you'll be okay.

 

This guy made a video about it, bare in mind he's using an old 1TB / 2TB drives.

 

[Kilrah]

My 16TB Ironwolfs run at 7200...

 

Got someone a 8TB Toshiba X300 at 7200 too recently.

 

You mention 4TB as "big" but it's actually pretty small nowadays - basically right in the place where the only thing that matters is cost, so making a more expensive 7200rpm version isn't very interesting for manufacturers.

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

You mention 4TB as "big" but it's actually pretty small nowadays - basically right in the place where the only thing that matters is cost, so making a more expensive 7200rpm version isn't very interesting for manufacturers.

True, as most of the power user switching to SSD, the bulk of the market is in mass storage that doesn't need the bleeding edge speed like cctv, video storage etc. But it's not going away, as some people like you may need it.