less fps with new screen.

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

Why would I be losing so much fps (like 35-40 to be exact) after swapping my 720p HDMI 32" tv, to a 42" 4k HDR HDMI tv?

[The Sloth]

if your running 4K, it uses more GPU power, because it has to push more pixels. 

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

Just now, The Sloth said:

if your running 4K, it uses more GPU power, because it has to push more pixels. 

oh, is there a way to overcompensate for this?

 

[Tan3l6]

4 minutes ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

720p

 

4 minutes ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

4k

The 4K has 9 times more pixels than 720p.

1 minute ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

oh, is there a way to overcompensate for this?

 

Better graphics card...

[The Sloth]

Just now, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

oh, is there a way to overcompensate for this?

 

yes, get a better GPU. 

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

Just now, Tan3l6 said:

 

The latter has 9 times more pixels than the former.

The picture is crisper to. But I've been getting a lot of screen tear when gaming.

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

Just now, The Sloth said:

yes, get a better GPU. 

im still gdrr5. would upgrading to gdrr6 fix this?

 

[The Sloth]

Just now, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

im still gdrr5. would upgrading to gdrr6 fix this?

 

not the Vram speed, you need more horsepower. what games are you trying to run? for 4k a 2080ti would be the best, especially if you want to play at native res. 

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

1 minute ago, The Sloth said:

not the Vram speed, you need more horsepower. what games are you trying to run? for 4k a 2080ti would be the best, especially if you want to play at native res. 

Warzone. I have a MSI Radeon RX 570 installed now. I thought the 8GB would be enough, but it's not. Also, only have a Ryzen 3 3200G

[aDoomGuy]

8 minutes ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

Warzone. I have a MSI Radeon RX 570 installed now. I thought the 8GB would be enough, but it's not. Also, only have a Ryzen 3 3200G

Sure 8GB should be enough for 4K Warzone (I think...) but what you need is a faster GPU with more cuda cores/stream processors like a 5700 XT or a RTX 2080 Super.

[fordy_rounds]

5 minutes ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

Warzone. I have a MSI Radeon RX 570 installed now. I thought the 8GB would be enough, but it's not. Also, only have a Ryzen 3 3200G

Yeah, the 570 isn't going to handle 4K well. It's not about the VRAM (8GB is plenty), it's about the GPU itself. As stated above, 4K has 9x the pixels of 720p. That means that your GPU has to do somewhere around 9 times the work to generate everything. If it's not up to the challenge, of course it's going to slow down. You need a card with a better GPU (e.g. AMD 5700XT, Nvidia 2070 or better); if it has more VRAM that's a bonus, but you don't need it.

 

A short term solution is to run your games at 1080p. But then you're not using the full potential of the screen, so I don't recommend that in the long run (because it means you overbought on your screen).

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

On 8/5/2020 at 2:39 PM, fordy_rounds said:

Yeah, the 570 isn't going to handle 4K well. It's not about the VRAM (8GB is plenty), it's about the GPU itself. As stated above, 4K has 9x the pixels of 720p. That means that your GPU has to do somewhere around 9 times the work to generate everything. If it's not up to the challenge, of course it's going to slow down. You need a card with a better GPU (e.g. AMD 5700XT, Nvidia 2070 or better); if it has more VRAM that's a bonus, but you don't need it.

 

A short term solution is to run your games at 1080p. But then you're not using the full potential of the screen, so I don't recommend that in the long run (because it means you overbought on your screen).

It has nothing to do with me using a apu with a graphics card? I just heard that the memory is shared because of this current set up. 

As shown in the picture. The RX 570 I have, is 4k HDR. No my monitor isn't freesync though.

Just a noobs opinion here.

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

On 8/5/2020 at 2:36 PM, aDoomGuy said:

Sure 8GB should be enough for 4K Warzone (I think...) but what you need is a faster GPU with more cuda cores/stream processors like a 5700 XT or a RTX 2080 Super.

upgrading to a ryzen 5 3600 wouldn't help?

 

[LyondellBasell]

10 hours ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

It has nothing to do with me using a apu with a graphics card? I just heard that the memory is shared because of this current set up. 

Just going to help clear up a few misconceptions here:

It sounds like you may have heard something along the lines of "using an APU will hurt your performance."

 

The truth of it is, when using a discrete graphics card, using an APU only hurts your performance relative to a similar CPU with the same TDP that doesn't have onboard graphics of the APU.

 

You're not sharing memory unless you're trying to run the APU and your discrete card in some sort of Crossfire setup.

10 hours ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

As shown in the picture. The RX 570 I have, is 4k HDR. No my monitor isn't freesync though.

That...doesn't mean much of anything. The "4K HDR" label on the box is a marketing term. Essentially, they are telling you that if you plug this card in your system, the "3840x2160" resolution will become selectable in your display control panel, and "HDR" will become a toggle-able(togglable?) option in Windows settings, provided you have a monitor that supports both of these features.

 

The framerate that your card can push these settings is key, here.

Sure, you can turn on ultra settings, but it sounds like you're getting a slideshow and some screen tearing. The RX 570 is meant for gaming at 1080p. You're asking far too much from the hardware you have.

10 hours ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

upgrading to a ryzen 5 3600 wouldn't help?

It's not going to help nearly as much as upgrading your card will. At a 4K resolution, you're placing far more demand on your card than your CPU. Put a 2080Ti in there and then we can talk about being CPU-limited.

[aDoomGuy]

20 hours ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

upgrading to a ryzen 5 3600 wouldn't help?

 

Not by much. A faster GPU would help much more. My 2060 Super is better than your RX 570 by a mile and even that would struggle at 4K. 

[GroundbreakingCrew9]

45 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

Not by much. A faster GPU would help much more. My 2060 Super is better than your RX 570 by a mile and even that would struggle at 4K. 

would a 1660 super be alright? the 2060 super is kind of out of my budget. Or is this a too bad, save up situation(shouldn't of gotten a 4k tv)?

The 1660 super has to be like 10x's better than the RX 570.

 

Better yet. What screen are you currently using w/ your 2060 super build?

[SavageNeo]

8 minutes ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

would a 1660 super be alright? the 2060 super is kind of out of my budget. Or is this a too bad, save up situation(shouldn't of gotten a 4k tv)?

The 1660 super has to be like 10x's better than the RX 570.

 

Better yet. What screen are you currently using w/ your 2060 super build?

how about rx 5600XT. it perfors little better than rtx 2060 for less. it is not ideal for 4k but much better than rx 570.

[aDoomGuy]

11 hours ago, GroundbreakingCrew9 said:

would a 1660 super be alright? the 2060 super is kind of out of my budget. Or is this a too bad, save up situation(shouldn't of gotten a 4k tv)?

The 1660 super has to be like 10x's better than the RX 570.

 

Better yet. What screen are you currently using w/ your 2060 super build?

I use just a cheap AOC 1080p screen thats overclocked to 75Hz. 2060 Super is good enough for that but not much more with cranked graphics. Well technically I have 2 AOC monitors but I only use one for gaming so there you go. A friend of mine games 4K with a Ryzen 2600x and 2080 (not Super or ti) that works okay enough.. but he can't crank up all the settings and expect majestic framerates. 2080 is the very least I would go for with 4K gaming.

 

1660 Super won't perform much better at 4K.. Save up or look for used 2080 is my advice.