Wondering if this tradeoff is worth it.

[Freddymaster922]

So I'm buying a PC from a Cyberpower and was wondering if this tradeoff would be worth it. 

PC 1:

Ryzen 5 3600

360mm AIO Watercooler

ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS ATX

16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3200MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG Z1)

AMD Radeon™ RX 5500 XT 8GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 [Navi] (Single Card)

240GB WD Green SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo

Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 Dual Band

Plus a free RGB keyboard, mouse, and large mousepad.

 

OR

 

Intel® Core™ Processor i5-10400

INTEL BRAND LGA 1156 (S) CPU FAN 65W (Included)

INTEL B460M M-ATX LGA 1200 

16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz MEMORY

MSI RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 (Turing) [VR Ready]

500GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD

Plus non RGB keyboard and mouse.

 

Which should I choose? They both cost the same, and the first one also can have an engraving on the side panel.

[zeusthemoose]

Any chance you would consider building your own? Much better bang for your buck and its not as hard as it may seem.

[FavoringWinter]

if you really want a prebuilt, you might want to go with nzxt bld

[Freddymaster922]

1 minute ago, zeusthemoose said:

Any chance you would consider building your own? Much better bang for your buck and its not as hard as it may seem.

I've considered, yes, currently it is pretty much not worth it. The price of getting the same PC would be Very different if I were to build one, seeing as there are many sales going on in the website and it lowers the cost greatly.

 

[zeusthemoose]

Just now, Freddymaster922 said:

I've considered, yes, currently it is pretty much not worth it. The price of getting the same PC would be Very different if I were to build one, seeing as there are many sales going on in the website and it lowers the cost greatly.

What do those builds cost after sales?

[bmx6454]

1 minute ago, Freddymaster922 said:

I've considered, yes, currently it is pretty much not worth it. The price of getting the same PC would be Very different if I were to build one, seeing as there are many sales going on in the website and it lowers the cost greatly.

 

a pc will always be cheaper to build, not sure what website you are referring to.

[FavoringWinter]

Just now, bmx6454 said:

a pc will always be cheaper to build, not sure what website you are referring to.

Not only would it be cheaper, it is also very fun. I recently did my first build with my dad and it was great, it is not too hard as long as you take your time on it.

[zeusthemoose]

Looking at the website, im assuming you would be paying around $1050 for it. Here is a similarly price build that combines the best of both. I didnt add a keyboard or mouse as those are very subjective and you can easily get a windows key on ebay for around $5.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$154.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$124.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$62.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$104.99 @ B&H
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card	$414.99 @ B&H
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$56.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1039.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1019.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-27 20:48 EDT-0400

 

[Freddymaster922]

13 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

Looking at the website, im assuming you would be paying around $1050 for it. Here is a similarly price build that combines the best of both. I didnt add a keyboard or mouse as those are very subjective and you can easily get a windows key on ebay for around $5.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$154.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$124.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$62.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$104.99 @ B&H
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card	$414.99 @ B&H
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$56.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1039.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1019.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-27 20:48 EDT-0400

 

That doesn't include many of the Quality-of-Life additions that are also included, such as:

Dual Band Wifi (Ethernet doesn't reach my room)

B550 chipset

AIO Watercooling

6 Case fans

Thermal Paste

Custom Engraving

Extra Large Mousepad

Windows 10

RMA-able parts

Logitech G502 Mouse

All for $979

[Freddymaster922]

1 minute ago, Freddymaster922 said:

That doesn't include many of the Quality-of-Life additions that are also included, such as:

Dual Band Wifi (Ethernet doesn't reach my room)

B550 chipset

AIO Watercooling

6 Case fans

Thermal Paste

Custom Engraving

Extra Large Mousepad

Windows 10

RMA-able parts

Logitech G502 Mouse

All for $979

For the 1st one, the 2nd also has similar items

[zeusthemoose]

39 minutes ago, Freddymaster922 said:

That doesn't include many of the Quality-of-Life additions that are also included, such as:

Dual Band Wifi (Ethernet doesn't reach my room)

B550 chipset

AIO Watercooling

6 Case fans

Thermal Paste

Custom Engraving

Extra Large Mousepad

Windows 10

RMA-able parts

Logitech G502 Mouse

All for $979

I see your point, so I will explain my reasoning for these parts. However if you do decide to go prebuilt the first one is better all around while the second will have better pure gaming performance.
I assumed you wouldn’t need WiFi as the second build doesn’t have a card. You can get a WiFi card quite cheap.

B550 would really have no advantage over b450 for your use case. Not to mention the tomahawk has better vrms than what is with the prebuilt.

Water cooling is cool to have but not necessary, the temps are worse when compared to a similarly priced air cooler and they have more points of failure. Also, the stock cooler is enough if you are not overclocking.

Where did you get the 6 case fans and g502? Can you please link the listing so I can I have a better look at it?

Lastly, Windows 10 licenses can be found for $5 on eBay and with building your own, you always can rma which is often not the case with prebuilts.

All in all, it will be a bit more expensive, but I believe it will be worth it as you know you are getting a good psu (often not the case with prebuilts), 3600 with 2060 super, and the experience of building your own.

[Freddymaster922]

1 hour ago, zeusthemoose said:

I see your point, so I will explain my reasoning for these parts. However if you do decide to go prebuilt the first one is better all around while the second will have better pure gaming performance.
I assumed you wouldn’t need WiFi as the second build doesn’t have a card. You can get a WiFi card quite cheap.

B550 would really have no advantage over b450 for your use case. Not to mention the tomahawk has better vrms than what is with the prebuilt.

Water cooling is cool to have but not necessary, the temps are worse when compared to a similarly priced air cooler and they have more points of failure. Also, the stock cooler is enough if you are not overclocking.

Where did you get the 6 case fans and g502? Can you please link the listing so I can I have a better look at it?

Lastly, Windows 10 licenses can be found for $5 on eBay and with building your own, you always can rma which is often not the case with prebuilts.

All in all, it will be a bit more expensive, but I believe it will be worth it as you know you are getting a good psu (often not the case with prebuilts), 3600 with 2060 super, and the experience of building your own.

The seller is CyberpowerPC

1st PC base: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer-Dragon

2nd PC base: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gaming-Instant-Ship-GX-99027

[zeusthemoose]

29 minutes ago, Freddymaster922 said:

The seller is CyberpowerPC

1st PC base: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer-Dragon

2nd PC base: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gaming-Instant-Ship-GX-99027

Are you sure the first one is the right link? It’s showing up as only having an rx580 and is $850.

[5x5]

4 hours ago, Freddymaster922 said:

The seller is CyberpowerPC

1st PC base: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer-Dragon

2nd PC base: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gaming-Instant-Ship-GX-99027

Considering what a nightmare Cyberppwer prebuilts are, I would never buy those. I'd you really want a prebuilt system, look at HIDevolution

[Freddymaster922]

22 hours ago, zeusthemoose said:

Are you sure the first one is the right link? It’s showing up as only having an rx580 and is $850.

Customized

 

[5x5]

3 hours ago, Freddymaster922 said:

Customized

 

Still not recommended. Cyberpoeer prebuilts are among the worst. You're better off with a Dell Inspiron or Lenovo Idea Centre