(e-die)Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz DDR4 DRAM CL15

[Columbo]

I picked up a Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz DDR4 DRAM CL15 this week. This is an e-die kit. So fare stable timings are 16-19-17-17-36-56 1T @ 3600mhz 1.4v   This will be the ram I use on my next build (zen 3). I have 32GB 4x8GB of XPG which is adata ram 3600mhz (rated out of the box) CJR memory that will do 16-19-19 @ 1.37v stable all day that will go back into this Ryzen 3600. This build was my original test Ryzen system that started with an R3 1200 a few years ago. I don't know if my B350 motherboard is the problem. When I go 3733mhz the system becomes unstable whether I use the XPG memory or the new E-die memory. Both will pass benchmark testing. I do not waste my time doing long winded memory testing because gaming is what makes the system hang, not the memory testing that goes for hours. 

 

My next build will have a new motherboard and processor. I am hoping the problem is infinity fabric on Ryzen memory controller. 

 

Does anybody here have the E-die memory and what are your best timings and ram speeds. They say that 1.45v is the maximum and many go that high for OCing. I would rather stay right around 1.4v

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Columbo said:

They say that 1.45v is the maximum and many go that high for OCing

Yea. Afaik e die can handle 1.45 easily. 

 

1 minute ago, Columbo said:

your best timings and ram speeds

Well even different e dies have different potentials. It also depends on the imc and the Interconnect of your chip and how far it can go.  Not entirely a ram thing in this case. 

 

2 minutes ago, Columbo said:

my B350 motherboard

And that is?

 

3 minutes ago, Columbo said:

3733mhz the system becomes unstable whether I use the XPG memory or the new E-die memory.

I mean if the kit is not rated at that, then it's not guaranteed to do it. You can set the soc to 1.15 and dram to 1.4 and then manually set the FCLK to 1866 manually and check as well. 

[WereCat]

9 minutes ago, Columbo said:

I picked up a Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz DDR4 DRAM CL15 this week. This is an e-die kit. So fare stable timings are 16-19-17-17-36-56 1T @ 3600mhz 1.4v   This will be the ram I use on my next build (zen 3). I have 32GB 4x8GB of XPG which is adata ram 3600mhz (rated out of the box) CJR memory that will do 16-19-19 @ 1.37v stable all day that will go back into this Ryzen 3600. This build was my original test Ryzen system that started with an R3 1200 a few years ago. I don't know if my B350 motherboard is the problem. When I go 3733mhz the system becomes unstable whether I use the XPG memory or the new E-die memory. Both will pass benchmark testing. I do not waste my time doing long winded memory testing because gaming is what makes the system hang, not the memory testing that goes for hours. 

 

My next build will have a new motherboard and processor. I am hoping the problem is infinity fabric on Ryzen memory controller. 

 

Does anybody here have the E-die memory and what are your best timings and ram speeds. They say that 1.45v is the maximum and many go that high for OCing. I would rather stay right around 1.4v

I have 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16 kit of E-die. 

 

Currently I'm running it at 3666MHz CL14 1.44V but I have tested it up to 3733MHz CL14 1.47V and 4000MHz CL16 1.49V.

 

My FCLK goes only up to 1866MHz so I will stick to 3733MHz CL14 once I tweak it out competely but I haven't had any issues with it at CL16 1.43V.

[Columbo]

14 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea. Afaik e die can handle 1.45 easily. 

 

Well even different e dies have different potentials. It also depends on the imc and the Interconnect of your chip and how far it can go.  Not entirely a ram thing in this case. 

 

And that is?

 

I mean if the kit is not rated at that, then it's not guaranteed to do it. You can set the soc to 1.15 and dram to 1.4 and then manually set the FCLK to 1866 manually and check as well. 

My motherboard is in my signature. It's a MSI 350 Gaming Pro Carbon. It looks exactly like the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon. I like to say it's the top end of the mid grade motherboard. I asked the original question because Zen 3 will have a higher FCLK 1:1 supported ratio. My board will boot 3800mhz but it gets unstable pretty fast and will hang or reboot without a blue screen. 3733mhz will do this as well but far less often. My XPG 3600mhz ram has the same behavior as the Crucial memory. That is why I think it's the memory controller on my Ryzen CPU or the B350 chipset being maxed out. 

[Columbo]

10 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I have 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16 kit of E-die. 

 

Currently I'm running it at 3666MHz CL14 1.44V but I have tested it up to 3733MHz CL14 1.47V and 4000MHz CL16 1.49V.

 

My FCLK goes only up to 1866MHz so I will stick to 3733MHz CL14 once I tweak it out competely but I haven't had any issues with it at CL16 1.43V.

I pushed the ram too hard from the beginning. I have my ram totally stable @ 3600mhz right now. I will let it settle in for a couple more days and go for CL 14 @ 3600mhz 1.45v 

The heatsinks are pretty light weight. I wanted to check that the memory sticks can handle more voltage. 

 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Columbo said:

The heatsinks are pretty light weight. I wanted to check that the memory sticks can handle more voltage. 

Yea they can. E die can easily handle 1.45 as I said above. 

 

9 minutes ago, Columbo said:

That is why I think it's the memory controller on my Ryzen CPU or the B350 chipset being maxed out

Likely the imc. The topology on the carbon iirc is decent. Though the imc depends. 

[Columbo]

From my research the 32GB 3000mhz kit and the 3200mhz kit are the same. @ 3000mhz the CL is 15 and 3200mhz is 16. There may be some better binning for the 3200mhz sticks but many have said they are the same kits with a higher CL for the extra 200mhz for the 3200mhz kit. 

[WereCat]

20 minutes ago, Columbo said:

From my research the 32GB 3000mhz kit and the 3200mhz kit are the same. @ 3000mhz the CL is 15 and 3200mhz is 16. There may be some better binning for the 3200mhz sticks but many have said they are the same kits with a higher CL for the extra 200mhz for the 3200mhz kit.