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20 minutes ago, gloop said:

Stable in 99.9999999% of cases, yes. There is always the tiny,tiny chance it won't work.

[Disclaimer, the following is from what ive understood thus far, so pls correct me should i have misunderstood :) ]

 

3200mhz with 3000 series cpu and capable motherboards is now the upper limit of jedec standards (meaning its no longer considered a OC).

 

So that 0.0000001% would be rma-able if it doesnt work (as long as on qvl) and would basicaly be the same as a doa cpu or doa 2133 stick.

 

(That said, your argument stands true, with these insane frequencies these days and the combination of components, theres always chance of a "unhappy marriage" between some components, sometimes preventing them from reaching specced speeds, and unfortunaly, it feels like that chance is bigger then afformentioned percentages unfortunatly).

 

26 minutes ago, AncientPistol said:

But isnt the rated frequency on the box factory tested to be stable? At least in day to day use?

Yes, on current (and your listed) hardware.

On lets say a b450 board or 2600, no, since there its considered a overclock, so "just luck" is a keycomponent there.

 

As for the original question: no, not worth it, only thing it would show is in benchmarks and single digit fps gains - to me that would not be worth risking maximum stability or lifespan (but only you can decide the answer for yourself :) )

Go xmp and let the stuff do its thang...

 

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I have 2x8GB G Skill Trident Z RGB RAM (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR). It is Hynix AFR die with rated timings 16-18-18-38 at 3200 MT/s. I am building this pc for my brother so stability is the highest priority and I don't want him getting any BSODs while gaming. Also, I have zero experience with overclocking anything.

 

So given this information, should I bother with overclocking the memory or is it better to just load the XMP and call it a day? If yes, what kind of performance gains could I achieve and where should I look for information regarding overclocking?

 

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CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $279.30 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $149.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $87.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $584.99 @ Best Buy
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $198.99 @ Amazon
Monitor BenQ EX2780Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $449.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard Cooler Master CK550 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $124.78 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech G403 HERO 16K Wired Optical Mouse $49.99 @ Best Buy
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Just enable XMP.

 

Technically, if you want maximum stability you should run it a 2133MHz but you'd be taking a big performance hit.

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4 minutes ago, gloop said:

Just enable XMP.

 

Technically, if you want maximum stability you should run it a 2133MHz but you'd be taking a big performance hit.

But isnt the rated frequency on the box factory tested to be stable? At least in day to day use?

 

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  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS
  • GPU
    GeForce RTX™ 3060 EAGLE OC 12G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD
    ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD
    Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache
    TOSHIBA MG06 (MG06ACA10TE) 10TB 3.5 Inch 7200RPM Enterprise SATA Hard Drive
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz) + MSI PRO MP241
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Just now, AncientPistol said:

But isnt the rated frequency on the box factory tested to be stable? At least in day to day use?

 

Stable in 99.9999999% of cases, yes. There is always the tiny,tiny chance it won't work.

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enable xmp and be done with it. as for manual over clocking, this is an AFR kit, not the best for that to say the least.

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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20 minutes ago, gloop said:

Stable in 99.9999999% of cases, yes. There is always the tiny,tiny chance it won't work.

[Disclaimer, the following is from what ive understood thus far, so pls correct me should i have misunderstood :) ]

 

3200mhz with 3000 series cpu and capable motherboards is now the upper limit of jedec standards (meaning its no longer considered a OC).

 

So that 0.0000001% would be rma-able if it doesnt work (as long as on qvl) and would basicaly be the same as a doa cpu or doa 2133 stick.

 

(That said, your argument stands true, with these insane frequencies these days and the combination of components, theres always chance of a "unhappy marriage" between some components, sometimes preventing them from reaching specced speeds, and unfortunaly, it feels like that chance is bigger then afformentioned percentages unfortunatly).

 

26 minutes ago, AncientPistol said:

But isnt the rated frequency on the box factory tested to be stable? At least in day to day use?

Yes, on current (and your listed) hardware.

On lets say a b450 board or 2600, no, since there its considered a overclock, so "just luck" is a keycomponent there.

 

As for the original question: no, not worth it, only thing it would show is in benchmarks and single digit fps gains - to me that would not be worth risking maximum stability or lifespan (but only you can decide the answer for yourself :) )

Go xmp and let the stuff do its thang...

 

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7 minutes ago, Bartholomew said:

[Disclaimer, the following is from what ive understood thus far, so pls correct me should i have misunderstood :) ]

 

3200mhz with 3000 series cpu and capable motherboards is now the upper limit of jedec standards (meaning its no longer considered a OC).

 

So that 0.0000001% would be rma-able if it doesnt work (as long as on qvl) and would basicaly be the same as a doa cpu or doa 2133 stick.

 

(That said, your argument stands true, with these insane frequencies these days and the combination of components, theres always chance of a "unhappy marriage" between some components, sometimes preventing them from reaching specced speeds, and unfortunaly, it feels like that chance is bigger then afformentioned percentages unfortunatly).

 

Yes, on current (and your listed) hardware.

On lets say a b450 board or 2600, no, since there its considered a overclock, so "just luck" is a keycomponent there.

 

As for the original question: no, not worth it, only thing it would show is in benchmarks and single digit fps gains - to me that would not be worth risking maximum stability or lifespan (but only you can decide the answer for yourself :) )

 

Go xmp and let the stuff do its thang...

 

Thank you for the info, so I guess I'll stick to XMP. Marking as solved.

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3 minutes ago, AncientPistol said:

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did you buy the parts already?

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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11 minutes ago, AncientPistol said:

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oh aight, just enable xmp then, if u wanna oc it a bit maybe increase the voltage to 1.4 or 1.45v and see how far it goes, 3333 3466 etc

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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