Intel Xeon help

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And is this GPU fine https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000233876555.html

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

Is this CPU fine : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32880060753.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33014502595.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.52b33d62zgjwK7&algo_pvid=b9e9dba8-75eb-4850-9cd6-b5c05b10722f&algo_expid=b9e9dba8-75eb-4850-9cd6-b5c05b10722f-0&btsid=0ab6d67915950084982995388e59fc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ryzen-5-1600-CPU/333651596704?hash=item4daf2f55a0:g:zI4AAOSwovpfCejn

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600x-3-2GHz-with-Cooler-master-cooling-fan-and-new-AMD-cooling-fan/333652679881?hash=item4daf3fdcc9:g:J4oAAOSwu3VfC3pR

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ryzen-5-1600-CPU-And-Cooler-Boxed/224083137139?hash=item342c655273:g:t5YAAOSwcLRfEJtq

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X/254652271416?hash=item3b4a754b38:g:or4AAOSwY11fDEJG

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-3-2GHz-Hexa-Core-Processor/254652391454?epid=16019365739&hash=item3b4a77201e:g:bywAAOSw0m1fDGlj

[Selle]

A Xeon E5-2620 V2 is not a downgrade from a 200GE. The Xeon is abouth 2x the 200GE in Cinebench R15. The 200GE is a bith faster on single thred, but should be faster in everything multi threded

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1 hour ago, Selle said:

A Xeon E5-2620 V2 is not a downgrade from a 200GE. The Xeon is abouth 2x the 200GE in Cinebench R15. The 200GE is a bith faster on single thred, but should be faster in everything multi threded

@5x5 @Selle What should I go with then, AMD R5 or Xeon E5-2620 V2. Again, productivity not gaming

 

[Selle]

The 1600 is faster then the xeon, and the 3600 is a lot faster, depends on what you want to spend. If you want to use the 200GE for something else, you have to by another motherbord and ram, then the R5 options gets more expensive than the xeon. If not a used R5 is cheaper

[5x5]

38 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

@5x5 @Selle What should I go with then, AMD R5 or Xeon E5-2620 V2. Again, productivity not gaming

 

The Xeon is NOT worth the investment in a 10-year-old platform. It's like buying AMD FX in 2020 - it's a very very very poor financial option. Get a Ryzen 5 1600 and you will see triple the performance of your Athlon. With the Xeon, the uplift won't really be much as it's got much slower cores.

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@Selle @TofuHaroto @5x5 I have come across a Core i7 Gen 3 (3xxx) motherboard (also supports Xeon E3) and a case for £40. Is that good, all I have to do is buy a i7 CPU (£30) 4GB RAM (£5), already have PSU and hard drive (spare)

[5x5]

4 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

@Selle @TofuHaroto @5x5 I have come across a Core i7 Gen 3 (3xxx) motherboard (also supports Xeon E3) and a case for £40. Is that good, all I have to do is buy a i7 CPU (£30) 4GB RAM (£5), already have PSU and hard drive (spare)

No, it's not. Ivy i7s are slower than first gen Ryzen 3 CPUs. Again, you cannot but obsolete hardware from 9 years ago and expect good performance.

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

No, it's not. Ivy i7s are slower than first gen Ryzen 3 CPUs. Again, you cannot but obsolete hardware from 9 years ago and expect good performance.

Ok, I will retract the bid. Thought all i7's are good as they have 4 cores

Still digging for a cheap Ryzen

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Anonymous015 said:

Ok, I will retract the bid. Thought all i7's are good as they have 4 cores

Still digging for a cheap Ryzen

I7 doesn't mean anything. You have i7s such as the 860 that are much slower than your current Athlon. Minimum if buying an i7 for work is a 8700. Anything less gets outclassed by miles by Ryzen 5 and the 8700 matches a Ryzen 5 3600

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Just now, 5x5 said:

You have i7s such as the 860 that are much slower than your current Athlon. Minimum if buying an i7 for work is a 8700. Anything less gets outclassed by miles by Ryzen 5 and the 8700 matches a Ryzen 5 3600

Wow, never knew Ruzen was on par with i7 gen 8. 

WOuld by Ryzen motherboard fit in this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-ITX-HTPC-Case-300W-PSU-Card-Reader-Micro-ATX-Desktop-PC-Media-Centre-S003B/200765836735?hash=item2ebe938dbf:g:u~gAAOSw9NxTuoa~

Also can I get a GPU in this

[5x5]

4 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

Wow, never knew Ruzen was on par with i7 gen 8. 

WOuld by Ryzen motherboard fit in this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-ITX-HTPC-Case-300W-PSU-Card-Reader-Micro-ATX-Desktop-PC-Media-Centre-S003B/200765836735?hash=item2ebe938dbf:g:u~gAAOSw9NxTuoa~

Also can I get a GPU in this

That's mITX. You'd need an expensive board and card for that 

 

Also, there's a reason Ryzen is outselling Intel Core I 12:1 globally and also a reason AMD went from 10% market share to over 35% with Ryzen in consumer deskrop

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Just now, 5x5 said:

That's mITX. You'd need an expensive board and card for that 

 

Also, there's a reason Ryzen is outselling Intel Core I 12:1 globally and also a reason AMD went from 10% market share to over 35% with Ryzen in consumer deskrop

I thought gen 2 and 3 were good, not gen 1

 

Should I bid 40 on this guy : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASROCK-AB350M-AM4-Motherboard-mATX-in-original-box/233648413040?epid=758148572&hash=item366687d970%3Ag%3AgVUAAOSwZE1fDF8J&LH_ItemCondition=3000

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

I thought gen 2 and 3 were good, not gen 1

 

Should I bid 40 on this guy : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASROCK-AB350M-AM4-Motherboard-mATX-in-original-box/233648413040?epid=758148572&hash=item366687d970%3Ag%3AgVUAAOSwZE1fDF8J&LH_ItemCondition=3000

If gen 1 wasn't good, gen 2 wouldn't exist as AMD we're on the verge of bankruptcy.

 

And sure, it has VRM heatsinks. Can handle a stock 8-core

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9 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

And sure, it has VRM heatsinks. Can handle a stock 8-core

Should I get a AM4 Athlon for £10 and then save up for a 1700x

Also if I buy the Ryzen from aliexpress, would it be worth more if I sell it from the UK on eBay, that way I could earn a bit of money, or is demand for it too low

[5x5]

Just now, Anonymous015 said:

Should I get a AM4 Athlon for £10 and then save up for a 1700x

Also if I buy the Ryzen from aliexpress, would it be worth more if I sell it from the UK on eBay, that way I could earn a bit of money, or is demand for it too low

If you have patience you can try. But I'd say just get what you need.

 

That board + stock 1700X is very solid

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Just now, 5x5 said:

If you have patience you can try. But I'd say just get what you need.

 

That board + stock 1700X is very solid

Should I get new for £50 or used for £40, not too sure. Will new last longer

[5x5]

6 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

Should I get new for £50 or used for £40, not too sure. Will new last longer

If it has warranty, get that

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Damn, even used Xeons arn't worth it anymore

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Should I get A320 with 1 year guarantee or B350 with 30 day guarantee @5x5

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Anonymous015 said:

Damn, even used Xeons arn't worth it anymore

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Should I get A320 with 1 year guarantee or B350 with 30 day guarantee @5x5

Depends on the specific models. Check the motherboard tier list on the forum.

 

And yes, those Xeons are ancient history. Samer for the majority of i7s

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8 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Depends on the specific models. Check the motherboard tier list on the forum.

 

And yes, those Xeons are ancient history. Samer for the majority of i7s

Stuck on A320 vs B350

Can A320 handle 1700x or is B350 better. Also which lasts longer

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Also am I going to have problems with BIOS update @5x5

[5x5]

27 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

Stuck on A320 vs B350

Can A320 handle 1700x or is B350 better. Also which lasts longer

It depends on the specific models. There are A320 boards that are better than B350 boards and vice versa.

 

23 minutes ago, Anonymous015 said:

Also am I going to have problems with BIOS update @5x5

No - 300 series supports Zen 1 out of box.

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@5x5 Just purchased 8GB RAM, B350 and a 1400. Is the specs fine or should I get a 1200 or some other CPU intead. Thnx 4 ur help

[5x5]

Just now, Anonymous015 said:

@5x5 Just purchased 8GB RAM, B350 and a 1400. Is the specs fine or should I get a 1200 or some other CPU intead. Thnx 4 ur help

It's fine. Assuming the board has even a basic VRM heatsinks, it should last a long time.