Not a good advice?

[TigersGhost]

So I someone I know is getting a new computer. It's supposed to be an i7 4770k, 16GB RAM, GTX 770 4GB, with an SSD for OS and 2TB WD Black.

Someone else posted this: "yeah u DONT need a GTX 770 4mb. thats just serious over kill and SERIOUSLY overpriced. You could get a SLI motherboard and get x2 GTX460's and run them in sli and it would be more than x2 powerful than a 770 and cost LESS all together than having to buy a 770 card. Also 500gb is way to seem for a hard drive. I have 2TB and i filled about 200 of that just with mods for skyrim alone. removing my oblivion mods was almost 20gb (yeah i DID mod the utter crap outa it) save your cash and get either a sli motherboard and x2 GTX460s or just get a gtx660 OC (what i have) as its seriously powerful and your not gona need anythin more powerful that than for at 10 years considering the Xbox1+PS4 graphics cards are shite"

How wrong is he?

[TechTheWorld]

Very wrong. Please don't do that. Get the 770.

[crashdown287]

^this

[MegaDave91]

Very wrong. 500Gb is pretty small for a harddrive though.

[Denoxx]

2x460 is really not what you're supposed to get

[Scottonpc]

Still better to get the best single card you can get, and add another later when prices come down for more performance. Get the 2TB hard drive because they are quite cheap so I don't see the point in buying a 500GB HDD because that will fill up quickly depending on if you record videos or have a lot of videos and music etc.

[Coombzy]

Very wrong although if its a gaming only build get a 4670K or FX 8320/50

[PillowSmoke]

Who said this?

[PillowSmoke]

They must die now.

[TigersGhost]

Who said this?

Some guy on steam community. 

[Analog]

Some guy on steam community. 

Facepalm... These people, with their wrong advices... You did well by not listening to him. 

[PillowSmoke]

Some guy on steam community. 

 

LOL.

[PassionFruit]

One good card is always better, also it recommended to buy newest cards possible.

[CCap]

Just about everything he said thus far has been wrong. If you want help planning a new build for him there are a lot of knowledgeable people in the "New Builds and Planning" subforum. Feel free to stop by there.

[Etermie]

OOpps  Sorry

[Jumper118]

Tigers_Ghost Thank you for the link and for the advice

The new Computer I was looking at getting

 

CPU: Intel i7 4770

Mobo: Intel mb4 DZ87KLT-75k

rAM: Team 16gb

Never get anintel motherboard, they are rubbish.

[Etermie]

Tigers_Ghost Thank you for the link and for the advice

The new Computer I was looking at getting

 

CPU: Intel i7 4770

Mobo: Intel mb4 DZ87KLT-75k

RAM: Team 16gb

GPU: Gigabyte Geforce GTX 770

SSD: Samsung 840 evo 500Gb or Crucial M500 480Gb

HDD: WD Black 2 or 3 TB

PSU: Antec 750W

Case ATX

 

Moniter I was probably going to keep my LG Flatron 2241?

Keyboard / mouse keep micosoft 600 ?

OS: ? Win 7 -  8.1 For 32/64 bit Can older games be played on 64 bit ?

Is there a better OS than Windows?

does the motherboard handle SLI  ?

My budget was ~ $1500 - $2000 AU

 

Any hints + Suggestions greatly appreciated

I still have a lot to learn

 

And Tiger_ ghost thanks

 

 

[TigersGhost]

Tigers_Ghost Thank you for the link and for the advice

The new Computer I was looking at getting

 

CPU: Intel i7 4770

Mobo: Intel mb4 DZ87KLT-75k

rAM: Team 16gb

Oh yea, I overlooked that, as Jumper118 said. Don't go for an Intel motherboard.

Get ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte or AsRock. 

Oh and which case are you getting exactly?

[Etermie]

Do you have a preference is one better more reliable than another?

[TigersGhost]

Do you have a preference is one better more reliable than another?

Yes, sure cases are different, some are better some are worse, better airflow, more hard disk drives, looks. Then there are different prices and so on.

Another question then is how big do you want it to be? Or do you not care about the size at all?

[Etermie]

For me practicality or use fullness are important  Size seems irrelevant in as far as You need to be able to get everything in and have airflow which may be best if case is 1/2 full?  ...I put computers under the desk ! I don't need to see it!

These days even the DVD drive has nearly become obsolete with downloading  everything direct.

Do you prefer Gigabyte / Asus?

Is there an advantage to getting all parts from 1 manufcturer?

[TigersGhost]

For me practicality or use fullness are important  Size seems irrelevant in as far as You need to be able to get everything in and have airflow which may be best if case is 1/2 full?  ...I put computers under the desk ! I don't need to see it!

These days even the DVD drive has nearly become obsolete with downloading  everything direct.

Do you prefer Gigabyte / Asus?

Is there an advantage to getting all parts from 1 manufcturer?

Alright, so first let me answer the 64 bit question. Yes you might run into trouble running old games on a 64 bit computer, but not all. But don't get 32, why? Because 32 bit can only use 4GB of RAM... so yea...

For a case you should be looking after something that is not over sized, has good cooling/airflow, has dust filters so you'll have to clean the dust filters instead of insides of the case, a case that can fit you'r components, build quality.

I could really recommend the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2.

A nice video showing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujH42NYOgbI

It's website for information: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/arc-series/arc-midi-r2

But there are many other good cases out there.

Yes there might be some advantages to having same hardware from one manufacturer, but I know only that MSI has "VGA boost" if you have their gaming motherboard and graphics card. Don't know what advantages other manufacturers have (if any). I have MSI and the VGA boost does not help so EXTREMLEY MUCH. So you don't need to have matching if you don't want to. Although it does look cool. 

As I said I have MSI and I like them, each manufacturer may have their own FEATURES that the other does not have. Mostly when picking motherboard you need to choose one that supports your components, then pick different ones according to which features you want.

If you want GIGABYTE then I can show you this: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4518#ov It does support i7 4770k. Good looking, is fairly cheap, have support for SLI if you want 2 770's in the future. And many other cool stuff ;P 

[GamerDude]

For me practicality or use fullness are important  Size seems irrelevant in as far as You need to be able to get everything in and have airflow which may be best if case is 1/2 full?  ...I put computers under the desk ! I don't need to see it!

These days even the DVD drive has nearly become obsolete with downloading  everything direct.

Do you prefer Gigabyte / Asus?

Is there an advantage to getting all parts from 1 manufcturer?

I'd recently upgraded the case for my main rig from a Thermaltake Level 10GT to a Caselabs M8, and let me say that a good sized case is always good for airflow, whether you go with negative or positive air pressure is up to you. Here's a little something on positive and negative pressure:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/techtalk_cont.php?tid=wh_positive&area=usa

 

Also, having a big case (if you have the space for it) is great for expansion, more drives, water cooling and multi-GPU setups would certainly be easier. BTW, I did not have an ODD installed in the M8 since I have an external ODD with which I can install games with. I'd say that there's hardly any compatibility issues with parts from different makers, so mixing and matching isn't an issue. My main rig has an Asus RoG board, and I have two Sapphire GPU's installed and a SB Zx soundcard w/o issue. My 2nd rig has an RoG board, an MSI GTX670 and a Palit GTX670, and an old PCI SB Fatal1ty FPS soundcard.....ain't a problem, You don't need to get an Asus GPU to go with an Asus mobo, and an Asus soundcard.....only reason to get mobo, gpu and soundcard from one maker (that I can think of) is for a certain color scheme that you want.

 

As for main board makers, Asus/MSI/Gigabyte/EVGA/etc make very good boards ranging from boards for the more budget conscious to enthusiast level mobos and GPU's.

[Etermie]

Tiger_ghost with the OS I noticed I can get Win 8  32bit or 64 bit ... or 32/64bit which gives the impression it can handle both which would seem to be an advantage to be able to play older or newer games...... ? Or would it?

Then again maybe I should just go 64 bit and keep my older computer to play the older games ...... Which after a while won't happen I guess!

 

I use Firefox as my Browser and here on this Forum it just keeps continually loading ...? Any ideas?   I noticed a hint to clear cache and Cookies? Firefox help isn't very helpful!

I haven't noticed it in any other forum!

[MegaTechPC]

So I someone I know is getting a new computer. It's supposed to be an i7 4770k, 16GB RAM, GTX 770 4GB, with an SSD for OS and 2TB WD Black.

Someone else posted this: "yeah u DONT need a GTX 770 4mb. thats just serious over kill and SERIOUSLY overpriced. You could get a SLI motherboard and get x2 GTX460's and run them in sli and it would be more than x2 powerful than a 770 and cost LESS all together than having to buy a 770 card. Also 500gb is way to seem for a hard drive. I have 2TB and i filled about 200 of that just with mods for skyrim alone. removing my oblivion mods was almost 20gb (yeah i DID mod the utter crap outa it) save your cash and get either a sli motherboard and x2 GTX460s or just get a gtx660 OC (what i have) as its seriously powerful and your not gona need anythin more powerful that than for at 10 years considering the Xbox1+PS4 graphics cards are shite"

How wrong is he?

 

Yeah that's a ridiculous statement start to finish but I have to agree with him that a 4GB 770 is useless (just not his explanation of why).  The GK104 in the 770 is simply not powerful enough to fully utilize that memory buffer.  Now if we are talking about getting a second or third 770 in SLI then that's a different story but if you think having 4GB of VRAM in a single 770 is going to magically allow it to run games at 5760 x 1080 (or other high resolution configs) then you're going to be disappointed.