New gaming build-how do i stress it out!?

[ColMustardhasawrench75]

Built a new gaming rig and i want to run tests on it for operation, performance to see how far i can push it. Haven't turned it on yet so i know i need to  check that everything is detected properly and that all components are properly detected. what programs do you suggest to stress it and measure performance before i start loading all my normal apps on it?

thanks

[Bombastinator]

My favorites are prime95 and furmark.  I’m old though.

[Statik]

I don't recommend furmark, as it can destroy hardware.

 

P95 is great for heat testing your CPU, but Cinebench R20 is also great for a more "realistic" load, and gives you a score.

 

Heaven, and 3DMark are the most recognized and recommended GPU stress/benching software.

[Senzelian]

2 minutes ago, Statik said:

I don't recommend furmark, as it can destroy hardware.

I wanna see that source lol

[ColMustardhasawrench75]

from what i read about it, the danger comes in not knowing how to use it.

[Bombastinator]

4 minutes ago, Statik said:

I don't recommend furmark, as it can destroy hardware.

 

P95 is great for heat testing your CPU, but Cinebench R20 is also great for a more "realistic" load, and gives you a score.

 

Heaven, and 3DMark are the most recognized and recommended GPU stress/benching software.

I suspected there would be better stuff out by now.  Curious how furmark can destroy a cpu. 

[Statik]

4 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

I wanna see that source lol

 

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

I suspected there would be better stuff out by now.  Curious how furmark can destroy a cpu. 

Furmark had an infamous reputation for frying GPUs due to creating such an unreal workload that some cards power distribution was overloaded and it essentially fried the card.

 

I think some drivers have been implemented to fix this, but i sure don't trust it. I also saw a video ~5-6 months ago on reddit of someones 1080Ti basically exploding while running furmark. Chances are it's okay, but they definitely have a reputation of damaging hardware, and it's not something I would personally ever risk, especially when there's plenty of other software that does a perfectly fine job.

[Bombastinator]

4 minutes ago, Statik said:

Furmark had an infamous reputation for frying GPUs due to creating such an unreal workload that some cards power distribution was overloaded and it essentially fried the card.

 

I think some drivers have been implemented to fix this, but i sure don't trust it. I also saw a video ~5-6 months ago on reddit of someones 1080Ti basically exploding while running furmark. Chances are it's okay, but they definitely have a reputation of damaging hardware, and it's not something I would personally ever risk, especially when there's plenty of other software that does a perfectly fine job.

Both prome95 and furmark are effectively power viruses.  They have no upper workload limit. You used to be able to fry a cpu with prime95 too.  That was a long time ago though.  Both are quite old.  Prime95 is called prime95 because it was updated to run in windows95.

[Statik]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Both prome95 and furmark are effectively power viruses.  They have no upper workload limit. You used to be able to fry a cpu with prime95 too though.  That was a long time ago though.  Both are quite old.  Prime95 is called prime95 is because it was updated to run in windows95.

Yes I know, I just haven't seen a single thing about P95 destroying a CPU the entire time I've been building computers (7+ years), yet in that time I've seen multiple posts and precautionary posts about furmark, so even if their issues are older I still like to tread lightly is all.

[Senzelian]

4 minutes ago, Statik said:

 

Furmark had an infamous reputation for frying GPUs due to creating such an unreal workload that some cards power distribution was overloaded and it essentially fried the card.

 

I think some drivers have been implemented to fix this, but i sure don't trust it. I also saw a video ~5-6 months ago on reddit of someones 1080Ti basically exploding while running furmark. Chances are it's okay, but they definitely have a reputation of damaging hardware, and it's not something I would personally ever risk, especially when there's plenty of other software that does a perfectly fine job.

Just wanted to see broken af hardware and now that you mention an exploding 1080Ti, I wanna see even more of it.

[Statik]

2 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Just wanted to see broken af hardware and now that you mention an exploding 1080Ti, I wanna see even more of it.

My internet is a giant pile of ass right now, so I can't really find it. I believe it was on /r/overclocking, but I could be wrong on that. It was actually pretty nuts, just his PC being a PC then a giant flash + bang. Needless to say his OC was not stable.

[Bombastinator]

45 minutes ago, Statik said:

Yes I know, I just haven't seen a single thing about P95 destroying a CPU the entire time I've been building computers (7+ years), yet in that time I've seen multiple posts and precautionary posts about furmark, so even if their issues are older I still like to tread lightly is all.

Hasn’t been a thing since heat throttling. I’ve got a Q66something in my basement I don’t even think I could break with prime95.  I also had a plll coppermine once upon a time.  That it might have worked on, I don’t know.  If modern GPUs have heat safeguards (and I suspect they do) they would be safe from that.  There might be something else of course.  I don’t have the deets.  I’ve never run either without watching them though.

[SansVarnic]

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OP I run F@H and or BOINC as my stress test. If it runs 24-48 hrs with no issue, it will most likely have no issue.

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

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OP I run F@H and or BOINC as my stress test. If it runs 24-48 hrs with no issue, it will most likely have no issue.

F@h on high will definitely eat everything available.  There’s a certain “drive it like it’s stolen” aspect to f@h I find I’m not overly fond of.  As a stress test this very thing makes it Not the worst idea.  

[Chris Pratt]

You can stress the CPU with CPU-Z. All you need is just something that will saturate the cores. Heaven is good for GPU. Turn up everything to max and just find a really difficult scene with lots of tesselation.

[StDragon]

Two schools of thought...

 

Yes, Prime95 and FurMark will stress the components to a theoretical workload that in almost any case you'll never practically run into. If you're running top-tier quality components and aren't under-speccing power and cooling margins, this won't be a problem. If these are used components, you run the risk of being the "proverbial straw". In that case, I'd avoid long burn-in testing with these programs.

 

On the other hand, software should never break hardware. If you suffer a hardware failure because of a program (with the exception of actually using said program to control voltage variables directly), that's frankly on the poor quality and engineering of the hardware (***again, so long as you're supplying enough power and cooling). If the hardware is new, and has a potential defect, now's the time to isolate the issue by bringing it to a failure point while it's still covered under **warranty.

 

• Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool (If the CPU is Intel, duh  )
• Prime95 (stress any CPU)
• FurMark (stress any GPU)
• MemTest86 (run all night to validate RAM timings and overall integrity of the DIMMs. Errors are bad)

** Warranty typically doesn't cover over-clocking or OC-ing beyond recommended thresholds. Read vendor warranty coverage for specific details.

***Power and cooling being what you've specced out and proper hardware installation of the cooling solution. 

[StDragon]

On 7/10/2020 at 2:24 PM, Statik said:

It was actually pretty nuts, just his PC being a PC then a giant flash + bang.

I could see this happening with an under-specced or poor quality capacitor. If power draw and voltages are improper, an electrolytic capacitor can form hydrogen gas, arc, thus causing it to explode like a firecracker.

 

Many years ago, the entire industry was effected by shoddy capacitors. You can read about that in the link below.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague