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My friend told me that he using ryzen 7 3800x with b450 itx aorus mobo the FPS in the game when streaming are not stable because before that x570 is RMA because some problem. So basiclly he say not worth for ryzen 7 using itx mobo it's true? because he never overclock his cpu , gpu and ram in x570. Do someone have this experience and if i buy his mobo pair with ryzen 5 3600 will i get same issues like him?

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What does the form factor have to do with any of this ? 

6 minutes ago, Grimorum7x said:

itx aorus mobo the FPS in the game when streaming are not stable

That's not the boards fault.

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5 hours ago, Grimorum7x said:

My friend told me that he using ryzen 7 3800x with b450 itx aorus mobo the FPS in the game when streaming are not stable because before that x570 is RMA because some problem. So basiclly he say not worth for ryzen 7 using itx mobo it's true? because he never overclock his cpu , gpu and ram in x570. Do someone have this experience and if i buy his mobo pair with ryzen 5 3600 will i get same issues like him?

So they’re saying one particular b450 board can’t handle a 3800x and x570 itx boards are all bad because of rma problems?

 

The first is possible.  Haven’t heard much about the second myself.

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ITX is just the form factor. What's important here is sufficient power delivery and cooling while gaming.

 

Without overclocking chances are something else was causing his problems. If you want the same model board he was using you shouldn't experience the same issues.

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Then only thing the board affects in this respect is power delivery and thermals. It's possible if it's just a really bad board, that it could lead to the CPU throttling or simply just not turboing to its full potential. However, that's fairly unlikely to be so bad as to be noticeable.

 

ITX is just a form factor. Has nothing to do with performance. However, ITX systems are notoriously difficult to cool because of their small form factor, so thermal throttling is possible, I suppose. Still, this has nothing to do with the board. You could put an ITX board in a full ATX tower. It's cramming all the components together in a tiny box, which often doesn't have much room for cooling, aside from maybe a 240mm AIO if you're lucky, that makes it typically run hotter.

 

Cooling a 3600 is trivial. It puts out relatively little heat. Even a budget air cooler like the Hyper 212 should be more than sufficient.

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9 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

What does the form factor have to do with any of this ? 

That's not the boards fault.

i know why but he told me when i get the x570 mobo from RMA, he found that b450 itx not give performance like x570 even no overclocking 

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | RAM: 32GB (2x8GB) Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4-3600 (White) | Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M Mortar Max | Storage: 1TB Samsung 990 Pro & 500gb NVME Kingston & 4TB Seagate & 1TB WD blue & 1TB 2.5 HDD WD | GPU: Zotac Intrinity OC RTX 3080 TI | Cooling: AMD PRISM | Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow | PSU: Superflower 850W

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8 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

So they’re saying one particular b450 board can’t handle a 3800x and x570 itx boards are all bad because of rma problems?

 

The first is possible.  Haven’t heard much about the second myself.

yeah cant handle 3800x. his x570 just got some faulty so he buy another b450 itx for 2nd setup and he also offer me that mobo for cheap price. i just though want using it on r5 3600 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | RAM: 32GB (2x8GB) Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4-3600 (White) | Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M Mortar Max | Storage: 1TB Samsung 990 Pro & 500gb NVME Kingston & 4TB Seagate & 1TB WD blue & 1TB 2.5 HDD WD | GPU: Zotac Intrinity OC RTX 3080 TI | Cooling: AMD PRISM | Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow | PSU: Superflower 850W

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7 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

ITX is just the form factor. What's important here is sufficient power delivery and cooling while gaming.

 

Without overclocking chances are something else was causing his problems. If you want the same model board he was using you shouldn't experience the same issues.

so if i buy his mobo and pair it r5 3600 there was no problem like him? sometime he asking me that m.2 gen 4 aorus getting hotter 60-70c 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | RAM: 32GB (2x8GB) Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4-3600 (White) | Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M Mortar Max | Storage: 1TB Samsung 990 Pro & 500gb NVME Kingston & 4TB Seagate & 1TB WD blue & 1TB 2.5 HDD WD | GPU: Zotac Intrinity OC RTX 3080 TI | Cooling: AMD PRISM | Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow | PSU: Superflower 850W

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7 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Typically B450 iTX boards have a better VRM setup.... Handle 105w? Sure my ROG handles a 2700x just fine. Plenty of EDC and PPT current headroom too.

 

Id have to be honest, my itx board is one of my favorite of all times so far. 

 

he say using aorus b450 itx pro wifi , r7 3800x , m.2 aorus 1tb gen 4 , rtx 2080 super

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | RAM: 32GB (2x8GB) Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4-3600 (White) | Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M Mortar Max | Storage: 1TB Samsung 990 Pro & 500gb NVME Kingston & 4TB Seagate & 1TB WD blue & 1TB 2.5 HDD WD | GPU: Zotac Intrinity OC RTX 3080 TI | Cooling: AMD PRISM | Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow | PSU: Superflower 850W

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3 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

Then only thing the board affects in this respect is power delivery and thermals. It's possible if it's just a really bad board, that it could lead to the CPU throttling or simply just not turboing to its full potential. However, that's fairly unlikely to be so bad as to be noticeable.

 

ITX is just a form factor. Has nothing to do with performance. However, ITX systems are notoriously difficult to cool because of their small form factor, so thermal throttling is possible, I suppose. Still, this has nothing to do with the board. You could put an ITX board in a full ATX tower. It's cramming all the components together in a tiny box, which often doesn't have much room for cooling, aside from maybe a 240mm AIO if you're lucky, that makes it typically run hotter.

 

Cooling a 3600 is trivial. It puts out relatively little heat. Even a budget air cooler like the Hyper 212 should be more than sufficient.

idk it say m.2 gen 4 1tb aorus always getting hotter on itx, btw he using 1000w on his pc mybe i should try his board latter on check the temp and try benchmark furmark. on his board no aio coller he using stock ryzen cooler in box

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | RAM: 32GB (2x8GB) Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4-3600 (White) | Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M Mortar Max | Storage: 1TB Samsung 990 Pro & 500gb NVME Kingston & 4TB Seagate & 1TB WD blue & 1TB 2.5 HDD WD | GPU: Zotac Intrinity OC RTX 3080 TI | Cooling: AMD PRISM | Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow | PSU: Superflower 850W

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7 hours ago, Grimorum7x said:

so if i buy his mobo and pair it r5 3600 there was no problem like him? sometime he asking me that m.2 gen 4 aorus getting hotter 60-70c 

That depends, do you mean buying his motherboard off of him or just buy an identical board?

 

Sounds kind of like he has insufficient airflow in his chassis.

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