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I just ordered a new HDD, is it SMR? Is it a problem for me?

SonyDash

So I wanted to add storage for my laptop and thought that the  Seagate 2TB BarraCuda ST2000LM015 is a solid choice.

Now I am no data hoarder but after the latest LTT video about SMR I thought I might as well check if this drive is SMR or not.

I couldn't really find any clear data on it, and I am not even sure it matters to me.

I will use the drive for storing games and normal use files, no server or anything.

Is it SMR? If so, does it matter to me?

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5 minutes ago, SonyDash said:

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5 minutes ago, SonyDash said:

If so, does it matter to me?

Nope. SMR is an issue for RAID. Since you are not using RAID in your laptop, no worries.

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Likely SMR since it has way too much cache for PMR at 2TB, but if you treat the HDD like a storage room you visit twice per year then it doesnt really matter

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In a request to Seagate they said that the following drives use SMR

  • Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM008 (3,5 Zoll, 7.200 U/min, SATA)
  • Seagate Barracuda 4TB ST4000DM004 (3,5 Zoll, 5.400 U/min, SATA)
  • Seagate Barracuda 8TB ST8000DM004 (3,5 Zoll, 5.400 U/min, SATA)
  • Seagate Desktop HDD 5TB ST5000DM000 (3,5 Zoll, 5.900 U/min, SATA)

I have it from a german source

Source:https://www.computerbase.de/2020-04/festplatten-seagate-smr-ohne-kennzeichnung/

 

Edit:

Here is a table from Seagate themself

https://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/cmr-smr-list/#

you got a 2.5" drive so no it should definitely not have smr

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Im pretty sure its smr, but why not test it? Use a random write workload in something like smr and it will show you if smr or not

 

 

But for most desktop uses, smr won't make a big differce. There is a pmr cache for smaller writes, and most storage drive uses are either sequentical writes or short bursts of random writes.

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30 minutes ago, flopana said:

Here is a table from Seagate themself

https://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/cmr-smr-list/#

you got a 2.5" drive so no it should definitely not have smr

It's literally right there in the table: Barracuda 2.5" = SMR.

 

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But like everyone said, not that big of an issue for general storage (except for they slow down when they get full, in my experience).

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38 minutes ago, SonyDash said:

So I wanted to add storage for my laptop and thought that the  Seagate 2TB BarraCuda ST2000LM015 is a solid choice.

Now I am no data hoarder but after the latest LTT video about SMR I thought I might as well check if this drive is SMR or not.

I couldn't really find any clear data on it, and I am not even sure it matters to me.

I will use the drive for storing games and normal use files, no server or anything.

Is it SMR? If so, does it matter to me?

Unless you are building a NAS or building a Video NLE, or a high-performance server, SMR will not matter. SMR only matters if it ends up in NAS or RAID arrays, where you explicitly do not want it.

 

If you're building a gaming rig, you won't even notice SMR since most games are downloaded, and the patch process is seldom anywhere near the write speed of the drive (which would need to hit at least 50MB/sec (400Mbits) to exceed the write speed of even the worst drives.)

 

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15 hours ago, AbydosOne said:

It's literally right there in the table: Barracuda 2.5" = SMR.

 

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But like everyone said, not that big of an issue for general storage (except for they slow down when they get full, in my experience).

Sorry im literally blind

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