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Hello, 

 

I'm Looking to build a portable 50/50 Gaming/3D CAD work and blender rendering for around £1,850,00

 

I have already configured and Intel and AMD Spec on pc part picker, I'm just not sure which is going to be better for my use case. 

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INTEL: 

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Total Cost: £1,828.71

 

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K Retail - (1151/8 Core/3.60GHz/16MB/Coffee Lake/95W/Graphics)

 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H75 2018 64 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

 

Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste

 

Motherboard: ASRock Z390M ITX/ac, Intel Z390, S 1151, DDR4, SATA III, M.2, Intel GbE, USB 3.1 Gen2 A+C, MiniITX

 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

 

Boot Drive: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Mac OS Boot Drive: Gigabyte 256Gb 2.5" SSD

 

Mass Storage: 2TB 2.5" Firecuda

 

GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card

 

Case: Phanteks Evolv Shift Air Mini ITX Tower Case

 

Power Supply: Silverstone 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply

 

OS1: Windows10 Pro OEM 64bit

 

OS2: Mac OS Catalina

 

Case Fans: Corsair LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan x4 + Lighting Node Pro

 

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AMD:

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Total Cost: £1,822.19‬

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor

 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H75 2018 64 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

 

Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste

 

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

 

Boot Drive: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

 

Mass Storage: 2TB 2.5" Firecuda

 

GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card

 

Case: Phanteks Evolv Shift Air Mini ITX Tower Case

 

Power Supply: Silverstone 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply

 

OS: Windows10 Pro OEM 64bit

 

Case Fans: Corsair LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan x4 + Lighting Node Pro

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If anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears as I have never built a PC before always used 'Gaming Laptops' and they haven't worked out well for me in the past. 

 

Thanks!!

 

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Intel problems:

9900k in the era of 10th gen, yuck. 10700k is its replacement for the same core and thread count, hopefully lower price in your region, but needs Z490 board (for overclocking) or H470/B460.

There's only 1 weak mobo in Z390 lineup and you managed to pick it out.

Prefer faster memory at this kind of budget (3600MHz at least, they dont even cost more in some cases)

Mac OS does not have drivers that support Nvidia Turing GPUs (i.e. anything beyond 10 series), so you'll be down to the iGPU at this point

Firecuda is a waste of time, SSHDs are useless when you have SSDs for stuff that needs accelerating. 8GB SSD in them are too small to help more than being a boot drive.

Corsair LL series fans foucs on looking good more than being a good fan.

 

AMD problems:

Slow RAM hurts Ryzen more significantly

Mac OS is unusable when there's no iGPU to jump on

SSHD problem

fan problem.

 

For running Mac OS, if you dont change to the RX 5700 or XT models, you must use Intel for its iGPU. Or you could wait for Nvidia and AMD's next gen product late this year.

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I was running an 8700k build in the evolv shift with the air panels and I wouldn’t do it again honestly. If you’re dead set on it you’ll want an H80i V2 with one fan and the triple fan wind force gigabyte GPU. I would personally reccomend something like the NCase M1 or the NZXT h210 for better air flow and more storage support. Also, my usb devices would overhear in the evolv shift since all the hot air exhaust over them. If you are using an Intel system, I would recommend doing a negative voltage offset of around -.01 to -.02 depending on what is stable. It will really help keep the cpu temps under control. 

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10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Intel problems:

9900k in the era of 10th gen, yuck. 10700k is its replacement for the same core and thread count, hopefully lower price in your region, but needs Z490 board (for overclocking) or H470/B460.

There's only 1 weak mobo in Z390 lineup and you managed to pick it out.

Prefer faster memory at this kind of budget (3600MHz at least, they dont even cost more in some cases)

Mac OS does not have drivers that support Nvidia Turing GPUs (i.e. anything beyond 10 series), so you'll be down to the iGPU at this point

Firecuda is a waste of time, SSHDs are useless when you have SSDs for stuff that needs accelerating. 8GB SSD in them are too small to help more than being a boot drive.

Corsair LL series fans foucs on looking good more than being a good fan.

 

AMD problems:

Slow RAM hurts Ryzen more significantly

Mac OS is unusable when there's no iGPU to jump on

SSHD problem

fan problem.

 

For running Mac OS, if you dont change to the RX 5700 or XT models, you must use Intel for its iGPU. Or you could wait for Nvidia and AMD's next gen product late this year.

 

Hello Jurrunio,

 

Thank you for responding to my post. I have made the adjustments you suggested to both the intel and amd builds. 

 

What after market case fans would you suggest for a build of this form-factor?

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9 hours ago, Sorenson said:

I was running an 8700k build in the evolv shift with the air panels and I wouldn’t do it again honestly. If you’re dead set on it you’ll want an H80i V2 with one fan and the triple fan wind force gigabyte GPU. I would personally reccomend something like the NCase M1 or the NZXT h210 for better air flow and more storage support. Also, my usb devices would overhear in the evolv shift since all the hot air exhaust over them. If you are using an Intel system, I would recommend doing a negative voltage offset of around -.01 to -.02 depending on what is stable. It will really help keep the cpu temps under control. 

Hello Sorenson,

 

Thank you for your response.

 

I have looked at the cases you have recommended and the seem to be too large for what I need it for. The idea for this build is that it needs to be portable and fit in a medium suitcase or large rucksack. This is why I have been looking at cases like the, Silverstone ML08 and the Lian li tu150. 

 

What were the issues you faced with the EVOLV Shift AIr? 

 

Do you have any suggestions for other Mini ITX Cases.? (Preferably with a handle). 

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3 hours ago, BFONTAINE96 said:

Hello Sorenson,

 

Thank you for your response.

 

I have looked at the cases you have recommended and the seem to be too large for what I need it for. The idea for this build is that it needs to be portable and fit in a medium suitcase or large rucksack. This is why I have been looking at cases like the, Silverstone ML08 and the Lian li tu150. 

 

What were the issues you faced with the EVOLV Shift AIr? 

 

Do you have any suggestions for other Mini ITX Cases.? (Preferably with a handle). 

The evolv shift is designed around having the GPU and cpu cooled with an AIO. Doing that reduces the cpu cooler you can use to a Slim 120mm aio. You might be able to get away with that on a 10700k. I was easily able to keep my 9700k cool in the case with an H80i V2 but my GPU would overheat. The biggest problem I saw was that hot air from the bottom radiator was shot right up into the main fan for the GPU. There just isn’t a lot of airflow in that case. It would probable be fine if you had the GPU and cpu cooled with a 120mm radiator or did a triple fan GPU. I can’t say for certain since I never did that with the case. 
 

The Ncase is smaller than the evolv shift air so it should fit inside a medium suit case. Although it has thin panels, so o would actually suggest the streacom DA2. The DA2 is nice since you can fit a huge AIO for the CPU and then can fit a triple fan card like the MSI gaming trio. I would personally  worry about a case with a glass side panel in a suitcase If you’re planing on flying with it. The Lian Li tu150 also seems like a good option. 

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