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5 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

Those are making antennas (transmitters), rooters (receivers) can be made by Qualcomm and other players as well

That's why I said infrastructure 😉

Let's say that

1) you can have a 5G connection with a stable price irrelevant to the data consumption

2) you can have a nm 5G at all (2gbps)

Would you use it on your PC?

 

Technically, have a hot spot 5G device on your balcony facing towards a 5G antenna, and use a WiFi from your laptop

 

Or in the future a router that does that but more elegant

 

I don't think that we will pay 2 internet(s) For forever, one for smartphone, one for house

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2 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

Let's say that

1) you can have a 5G connection with a stable price irrelevant to the data consumption

2) you can have a nm 5G at all (2gbps)

Would you use it on your PC?

 

Technically, have a hot spot 5G device on your balcony facing towards a 5G antenna, and use a WiFi from your laptop

 

Or in the future a router that does that but more elegant

 

I don't think that we will pay 2 internet(s) For forever, one for smartphone, one for house

Yeah but for a phone or a computer to use 5G it has to have specialized hardware and software to make it work, its like with huawaei I think I remember hearing that they are banned from letting their phones use 5G in the states because of the spying stuff. If that did happen I think that it would maybe be like 10 years from now at the least as main problems people are focusing on are like new technology and making as much money on their consumers as they can with old tech

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I think wired home internet service will exist as long as people desire stable and reliable connections.

 

Cellular is still a total garbage fire in terms of packet loss and jitter.

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6 minutes ago, Vitamanic said:

 

Cellular is still a total garbage fire in terms of packet loss and jitter.

Maybe in america?

I have lived off of 4G for almost a year now, and it is 100% fine. Nothing like that, and ping is 5-10, which is not terrible in any way. Only problem is nat=strict, so for some games i have to activate a vpn to get nat=moderate, but in modern games it isn't a problem.

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1 minute ago, Origami Cactus said:

Maybe in america?

I have lived off of 4G for almost a year now, and it is 100% fine. Nothing like that, and ping is 5-10, which is not terrible in any way. Only problem is nat=strict, so for some games i have to activate a vpn to get nat=moderate, but in modern games it isn't a problem.

Yes but 4G is a 40-80 Mbps, so is my house connection, and it's fine

. But 5G is 4 times that and rumored way less latency and probably ping

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Eventually yes, but we're still very far from that. I'd say 5ish years at least. Not only that, I doubt they'd move entirely to that model as you'd have too much saturation. Having people use cable/DSL/etc helps keep the network load down. Not only that, if people started leaving ground based services, they'd lower their prices, and people would choose it for that reason. When 6G comes out I think it'll be more feasible.

 

29 minutes ago, KGGaming said:

Yeah but for a phone or a computer to use 5G it has to have specialized hardware and software to make it work, its like with huawaei I think I remember hearing that they are banned from letting their phones use 5G in the states because of the spying stuff. If that did happen I think that it would maybe be like 10 years from now at the least as main problems people are focusing on are like new technology and making as much money on their consumers as they can with old tech

There are many, many more companies that make 5G infrastructure than Huawei. Nokia, Ericcson, etc.

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35 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

Yes but 4G is a 40-80 Mbps, so is my house connection, and it's fine

. But 5G is 4 times that and rumored way less latency and probably ping

4g is not so slow everywhere, it can get up to 300mbit/s. I get 120mbit/s.

5g is more like 10 times what you said, it is up to a 1000mbit/s.

But yes the improved latency and stuff will be very nice, maybe it will even support better nat types for gaming.

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5 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

Those are making antennas (transmitters), rooters (receivers) can be made by Qualcomm and other players as well

That's why I said infrastructure 😉

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1 hour ago, Origami Cactus said:

Maybe in america?

I have lived off of 4G for almost a year now, and it is 100% fine. Nothing like that, and ping is 5-10, which is not terrible in any way. Only problem is nat=strict, so for some games i have to activate a vpn to get nat=moderate, but in modern games it isn't a problem.

How the hell is it that low? I got horrendous latency when I was trying to game on 4G.

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9 hours ago, Origami Cactus said:

Maybe in america?

I have lived off of 4G for almost a year now, and it is 100% fine. Nothing like that, and ping is 5-10, which is not terrible in any way. Only problem is nat=strict, so for some games i have to activate a vpn to get nat=moderate, but in modern games it isn't a problem.

The first hop latency you see doesn't tell the whole story. You're competing with everyone else on the tower for packet priority. If you measured round trip time to a server, you'd see significant jitter. Packet loss is also still an issue.

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16 hours ago, PeachGr said:

Yes but 4G is a 40-80 Mbps, so is my house connection, and it's fine

. But 5G is 4 times that and rumored way less latency and probably ping

The laws of physics, sending a signal through the air is always going to be higher latency/jitter and packet loss then down a fibre.  A tree branch or drop of rain cannot randomly drift in your line-of-sight with fibre.  The time each user is allowed to talk over FTTP can be precise, nobody can talk over you due to deflections like over the air.

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