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i7-4710HQ struggles to play 4k60/1440p60 on YT

Hello everyone,

 

In Chrome browser, my laptop just can't seem to handle 4k60 yt playback. Is that because there's lack of hardware support for VP9 codec? And even on 1440p60, usage is pretty high. Newer Intel CPUs play these formats with 2-5W, while I have to pull 40 and still lag.

 

Is that just because it's running everything through software? I can't seem to encode with dedicated GPU either, but that's a Chrome issue and I'm familiar with it. Any insight or possible solutions are welcome!

 

Thank you.

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Did you try if you have the same issue with Firefox or another browser?

For me Chrome always uses the dedicated GPU for decoding video.

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11 minutes ago, Light-Yagami said:

Hello everyone,

 

In Chrome browser, my laptop just can't seem to handle 4k60 yt playback. Is that because there's lack of hardware support for VP9 codec? And even on 1440p60, usage is pretty high. Newer Intel CPUs play these formats with 2-5W, while I have to pull 40 and still lag.

 

Is that just because it's running everything through software? I can't seem to encode with dedicated GPU either, but that's a Chrome issue and I'm familiar with it. Any insight or possible solutions are welcome!

 

Thank you.

Maybe you can go to the graphics settings in windows and let chrome use your dedicated GPU ? 

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1 minute ago, Void Master said:

Maybe you can go to the graphics settings in windows and let chrome use your dedicated GPU ? 

Usually not great unless it has VP9 

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7 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

Did you try if you have the same issue with Firefox or another browser?

For me Chrome always uses the dedicated GPU for decoding video.

this is a laptop. It uses HD4600 for video. Doesn't use Nvidia for encoding even if manually selected. Tried it, even disabled HD4600 all together - it still doesn't wanna do it. It does EVERYTHING on the CPU. Maybe it's unfixable

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3 minutes ago, Void Master said:

Maybe you can go to the graphics settings in windows and let chrome use your dedicated GPU ? 

Doesn't work on laptops. Always defaults to CPU and integrated, even if manually selected otherwise 

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Just now, Light-Yagami said:

this is a laptop. It uses HD4600 for video. Doesn't use Nvidia for encoding even if manually selected. Tried it, even disabled HD4600 all together - it still doesn't wanna do it. It does EVERYTHING on the CPU. Maybe it's unfixable

Did you try using another browser? Chrome is not known to manage system recources well.

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1 minute ago, Light-Yagami said:

this is a laptop. It uses HD4600 for video. Doesn't use Nvidia for encoding even if manually selected. Tried it, even disabled HD4600 all together - it still doesn't wanna do it. It does EVERYTHING on the CPU. Maybe it's unfixable

I mean in all honesty the i-gpu on the haswell chips is probably aging decoding at high res is probably too much for it 

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

I mean in all honesty the i-gpu on the haswell chips is probably aging decoding at high res is probably too much for it 

That's all I want to know. It bothers me that I haven't a clue where the bottleneck is. I think it's the CPU, because i-gpu is never at full tilt even with 4k60, and the CPU is, but it has no problems playing back h264 4k video. So I think it's the lack of VP9 support. I just need somebody to cofirm it or tell me something I didn't know before. You fell me?

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1 minute ago, Light-Yagami said:

back h264 4k video. So I think it's the lack of VP9 support.

That's probably it 

I don't want to say it's 100% difinitive yes but considering that haswell is what like 5-6 years old VP9 support would be lacking plus the cpu it self while still having 4 hyper threaded cores it's ipc count well to say the least its lacking

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That's probably it 

I don't want to say it's 100% difinitive yes but considering that haswell is what like 5-6 years old VP9 support would be lacking plus the cpu it self while still having 4 hyper threaded cores it's ipc count well to say the least its lacking

Sigh.. I can't believe my 45W i7 can't even match the weakest U series of today. Sad times. I guess it's time to upgrade. 

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Intel Quick Sync of the Haswell generation does not offer VP9 decoding, hence everything will be done by the CPU.

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my desktop overclocked 4770k could barely handle 4k60 so I don't think there is much you can do. 

 

Maybe download the video and play it in VLC using your main GPU if you can? 

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