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2070 Super or 5700 XT?

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I'm having trouble deciding if the 2070S is worth the $100 extra over the 5700xt. I've been doing as much research as I can and I've found that the 5700xt is really close to the 2070S in terms of fps but it's a whole $100 cheaper. I'm wondering if the extra $100 is worth the approximate 10% better performance, rtx support, and dlss. Also I've heard that the 5700xt is really buggy and/or crashes a lot, does this still happen?

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The 5700xt is basically a 2070 super but cheaper for gaming 

Just get it 

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7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

The 5700xt is basically a 2070 super but cheaper for gaming 

Just get it 

Which 5700xt should I get?

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2 minutes ago, OppositeDestiny said:

Which 5700xt should I get?

What county?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, OppositeDestiny said:

'MERICA! 

The red color 5700xt is pretty decent 

I think it has a 10+2 phase power design so it's non reference 

But the sapphire 5700xt is pretty good 

But I recommend checking the list on this forum for gpus ;)

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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2 minutes ago, OppositeDestiny said:

'MERICA! 

On the cheap-but-good side of things:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3YTzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-pulse-video-card-11293-01-20g

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KDxbt6/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-strix-gaming-oc-video-card-rog-strix-rx5700xt-o8g-gaming

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZZZzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-red-dragon-video-card-axrx-5700-xt-8gbd6-3dhroc

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

On the cheap-but-good side of things:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3YTzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-pulse-video-card-11293-01-20g

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KDxbt6/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-strix-gaming-oc-video-card-rog-strix-rx5700xt-o8g-gaming

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZZZzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-red-dragon-video-card-axrx-5700-xt-8gbd6-3dhroc

^ this 

or you can check this list ;)

On 3/19/2019 at 9:56 PM, LukeSavenije said:

Credit to: @GoldenLag, @XR6

Disclaimer:

 

This list only covers the GTX 1000 series, GTX 1600 series and RTX 2000 series for Nvidia, RX 500 series, 5700 and RX Vega for AMD. Cards are not prefered between AMD or Nvidia or any brand listed here. Notes may be included with some of the cards. Tiers are based on facts. We rate on known problems, vrm and cooling capacity.

 

List is subject to change at any time, due to change in sources available.

 

Italics: estimated possition

 

*=best blower cards (use vapor chamber cooling)

 

AMD (RX 57XX)

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Tier S The best (Highest end PCB, exceeding cards)

AMD: Reference with custom cooler

Gigabyte: Aorus

MSI: Gaming X

Powercolor: Red Devil

Sapphire: Nitro+

XFX: Thicc III

 

Tier A High end (great cooling)

Gigabyte: Gaming OC

Sapphire: Pulse

Powercolor: Red Dragon

MSI: Evoke (after fix), Mech (after fix)

XFX: Thicc II (after fix), RAW II (after fix)

 

Tier B High-Midrange (midrange cooling)

Asus: ROG Strix

Asrock: Challenger, taichi

 

Tier C Midrange (borderline cooler)

MSI: Evoke, Mech

XFX: Thicc II, RAW II

 

Tier D Low-Midrange (hot running cards, can be solved with a 3rd party cooler or slight modifications)

Asus: Founders/Blower, TUF X3

Asrock: Founders/Blower

Gigabyte: Founders/Blower

Powercolor: Founders/Blower

MSI: Founders/Blower

Sapphire: Founders/Blower

XFX: Founders/Blower

AMD (RX 5XX)

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Tier A High end (great pcb, great cooler)

Asus: ROG Strix, Arez Strix

Gigabyte: Aorus, Aorus XTR

Powercolor: Red Devil, Golden Sample

Sapphire: Nitro+, Nitro+ SE

 

Tier B High-Midrange (good cooler, decent pcb)

Asrock: Phantom Gaming U, Phantom Gaming X

Asus: (Arez) Dual, Expedition

Gigabyte: Gaming (OC)

MSI: Armor MK2, Gaming (X)

Sapphire: Pulse

XFX: Black, GTR-S, GTS, Black Core, XXX

 

Tier C Midrange (meh cooler, good enough pcb)

Asrock: Phantom Gaming D

Diamond: D5

XFX: Fatboy

 

Tier D Low-Midrange (hot running cards, can be solved with aftermarket cooler)

AMD: Reference blower

MSI: Armor, V1

Sapphire: Pulse ITX

Visiontech: overclocked

AMD (RX VEGA)

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Tier A High end (Best cooled cards, great PCB)

Powercolor: Red Devil

Sapphire: Nitro+

 

Tier B High-Midrange (great cooled cards, good PCB)

AMD: Liquid, Frontier liquid

Asus: ROG Strix, Arez Strix (after fixes on vrm)

Gigabyte: Watercooling

HIS: Liquid

MSI: Wave

Powercolor: Red Dragon, liquid

Sapphire: Pulse, liquid

XFX: Liquid

 

Tier C Midrange (okay cooled cards, okay pcb)

AMD: VII reference

Asus: VII reference

Asrock: Phantom Gaming X VII

Gigabyte: Gaming OC, VII reference

Powercolor: AXVII

Sapphire: VII reference

XFX: VII reference

 

Tier D Low-end (hot cards, can be solved with 3rd party cooler)

AMD: Reference, Frontier

Asrock: Phantom gaming X VEGA

Gigabyte: Silver

HIS: Air, limited

MSI: Air Boost, iron, reference

Powercolor: nano, limited, reference

XFX: LDFF6

Nvidia (RTX 20xx/GTX 16xx)

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Tier S The best (used for LN2 overclocking)

EVGA: K|ngP|n

Galax: HOF air/water

KFA2: HOF air/water

MSI: Lightning Z

 

Tier A High end (great PCB, hybrid/watercooled cards)

Asus: ROG Matrix, ROG Poseidon

Evga: FTW3 Hybrid, XC Hybrid Gaming, FTW3 Hydro Copper

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme Waterforce

MSI: Sea Hawk (X)

 

Tier B High-Midrange (great PCB, high end cooler)

Asus: ROG Strix

Evga: FTW3 Ultra/Elite, XC Ultra, XC2 Ultra, FTW 3

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme, Aorus

Inno3D: iChill (Black)

MSI: Gaming (X) Trio, Lightning X, Duke

Zotac: AMP! Extreme (Core), AMP! Omega, AMP MAXX

 

Tier C Midrange (good PCB, midrange cooler)

Colorful: Vulcan X (OC)

Evga: SC2, XC Black

Galax: SG

Gigabyte: Gaming OC, OC Black

Nvidia: Founders

MSI: Gaming Z, Armor, Gaming (X)

Palit: (Super) Jetstream

PNY: XLR8

Zotac: AMP

 

Tier D Low-Midrange (okay cooled cards, decent enough pcb)

Asus: Dual

Galax: Dual, EXOC Snpr, EX

Gainward: Phoenix (GS)

Inno3D: Twinx2, Gaming OC

Leadtek: Cyclone

KFA2: OC, Dual

Palit: GamePro, Gamerock (premium), Dual, StormX, Pegasus

Zotac: Gaming

 

Tier E: Low end (hot running cards, can be solved with aftermarket cooler)

Asus: Turbo, Phoenix, LP

Diamond: RX

Evga: Gaming

Galax: Blower, OC Mini

Gigabyte: Turbo, Mini Itx OC

Inno3D: Jet

MSI: Aero, Ventus, ITX

Palit: KalmX

PNY: Blower

Zotac: Blower, Mini, Low Profile

Nvidia (GTX 10xx)

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Tier S The best (used for LN2 overclocking)

EVGA: K|ngP|n

Galax: HOF

KFA2: HOF

MSI: Lightning X

 

Tier A High end (great pcb, water/hybrid cooled)

Asus: ROG Matrix, ROG Poseidon

Corsair: Hydro

Evga: FTW3 Hybrid, FTW3 Hydro Copper, SC2 Hybrid

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme Waterforce

Inno3D: iChill X3 JEKYLL

MSI: Sea Hawk X

 

Tier B High-Midrange (great pcb, great aircooling)

Asus: ROG Strix

Evga: FTW3 Ultra, FTW3 Elite, FTW ACX 3.0, FTW ICX

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme, G1 Rock

Inno3D: iChill Black

Gigabyte: Aorus, Aorus Xtreme

MSI: Gaming (X) Trio, Lightning Z, Duke

Zotac: AMP! Extreme, AMP! Extreme Core

 

Tier C Midrange (decent pcb, decent cooler)

Colorful: Vulcan X, Vulcan X OC

Evga: ICX, SC Black, SC2, SC2 Elite, SC ACX 2.0, SSC ACX 3.0, SSC, SSC2, FTW+ DT, FTW+

Galax: SG

Gigabyte: G1 Gaming

HIS: IceQ X² Turbo, IceQ X² Roaring Turbo

Inno3D: Ichill

Leadtek: Hurricane OC

MSI: Gaming (X), Gaming Z

Powercolor: Liquid

Palit: Super Jetstream

PNY: XLR8

 

Tier D Low-Midrange End (okay cooler, okay pcb)

Asus: Dual, Expedition, Cerberus

Galax: Dual, EXOC Snpr, EX, SG

Gainward: Phoenix, Phoenix GS, Pegasos

Gigabyte: Gaming OC, Windforce, OC Black, G1, D5

Inno3D: Twinx2, Gaming OC

Leadtek: Hurricane, Cyclone

KFA2: OC, Dual

Palit: GamePro, Jetstream, Gamerock, Gamerock Premium

Zotac: Gaming, Amp!

 

Tier E Low End (hot running cards, some can be solved with 3rd party coolers)

Asus: Turbo*, Phoenix, TUF, LP

Diamond: RX

Evga: Gaming

Galax: Blower, Katana, OC LP, OC Mini

Gigabyte: Turbo, Mini Itx OC, Silver, OC Low profile

HIS: iCooler, Slim-iCooler

Inno3D: Jet, Compact, 1-Slot Edition

KFA2: Virtual look

Leadtek: Classic, rev. B, Passive, Single fan

MSI: Aero, ITX, Reference, Armor, LP

Nvidia: Founders Edition*

Palit: StormX, Pegasus, KalmX, Dual

PNY: Blower Style, single fan

Zotac: Blower, Mini, Low Profile

Useful links:

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https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1706276-official-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-owner-s-club.html#/topics/1706276?page=1

(A binned chips or not)

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SUo4dDiBYMEKw3Iv7s6UiDesQapBl9Nb2ZTie7URq78/edit?usp=drivesdk

(sheet of 5700/5700XT cards)

Notes:

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You hate tier lists? don't use them. there are people who love them just for the simplicity of looking something up and go on, let those people have something

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Update Log:

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19-03-2019: release

19-03-2019: added a couple EVGA cards

20-03-2019: changed name, moved cards

24-03-2019: moved some zotac cards

5-08-2019: moved reddragon

26-09-2019: re-arranged units, separated in series, added Navi cards

26-09-2019 (2): Palit StormX/Gainward Pegasos a tier up, removed Asrock out of vidia, temporary positions for nitro+/TUF x3/Taichi

 

 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

Build Log: 

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1 hour ago, OppositeDestiny said:

Which 5700xt should I get?

Get the Sapphire Nitro + version since it's the best if you can afford one.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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