Inherited Brother's PC possibly in need of an Upgrade

[iKamo]

As the title suggests, I just "inherited" my brother's PC and since I would like to stream with it, I definitely think it needs some upgrades. Unfortunately my budget is not that high at the moment but what would you suggest I should do first with what I have at my disposal?

 

NOTE: On PC Part Picker I wasn't able to find my version of the GPU which is actually the 8GB model.

 

Budget (including currency): 500$

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Streaming - Escape From Tarkov, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Other details:

PCPartPicker Part List

 

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	$225.48 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory	$59.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Silicon Power A80 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$47.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 570 4 GB RED DRAGON Video Card
Case	Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$66.42 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$146.79 @ Amazon
	Total	$601.65
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 21:52 EDT-0400

 

 

 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by iKamo

[Promosss]

You want to stream? You can get an RTX 2060 super, Nvidia's Nvenc encoder is very good for streamers.

[iKamo]

2 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

Just to clarify, the build list there, you already have that PC?

Yes this is the PC I have. I just used the list for easy reading.

[BlackManINC]

@iKamo

 

 I would only change the following for right now. The GPU you have is good enough for gaming so you can save your money for the new GPU's releasing this year and the next. The only reason why I'm suggesting the SSD is for the extra storage, since video games will swallow it whole. 

 

Motherboard: ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

 

Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

 

[BlackManINC]

@iKamo

 

Just to give you some assurances on the changes I suggested. You'll get a pretty good performance for a little while longer. I'd say you are good for at least the next year or two, maybe even longer, so I would just save your money on a GPU for now. 

 

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - RX 570 | Ryzen 5 3600: 

 

[VEXICUS]

You just need a GPU and PSU upgrade. 

Get something like a RX 5700xt for GPU.

Your CPU is still solid.

 

For the PSU, refer this list and get a unit from higher tiers.

 

[BlackManINC]

8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

You just need a GPU and PSU upgrade. 

Get something like a RX 5700xt for GPU.

Your CPU is still solid.

 

For the PSU, refer this list and get a unit from higher tiers.

 

I don't know about that, the R5 3600 beats the piss out of the R5 1600 and its cheaper. You'll see a significant jump in performance overall in the video below. I'd definitely get rid of that CPU. 

 

Benchmark: R5 3600 vs R5 1600

 

 

[VEXICUS]

1 hour ago, BlackManINC said:

I don't know about that, the R5 3600 beats the piss out of the R5 1600 and its cheaper. You'll see a significant jump in performance overall in the video below. I'd definitely get rid of that CPU. 

 

Benchmark: R5 3600 vs R5 1600

 

 

Okay, to tackle that, I would say that the GPU used in the above video is rtx 2080ti (Probably one of the fastest GPUs out there). Here there will always be a case of CPU bottleneck. 

 

Run those tests with a mid range gpu.

Look, the gap becomes negligible...

 

[VEXICUS]

2 hours ago, BlackManINC said:

@iKamo

 

 I would only change the following for right now. The GPU you have is good enough for gaming so you can save your money for the new GPU's releasing this year and the next. The only reason why I'm suggesting the SSD is for the extra storage, since video games will swallow it whole. 

 

Motherboard: ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

 

Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

 

Also, here you are just suggesting a CPU upgrade. In OPs case CPU was never the bottleneck. It was the GPU that was tr bottleneck.

R5 1600 + 5700xt easily wins over R5 3600 + RX570

[BlackManINC]

8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Also, here you are just suggesting a CPU upgrade. In OPs case CPU was never the bottleneck. It was the GPU that was tr bottleneck.

R5 1600 + 5700xt easily wins over R5 3600 + RX570

 Hmmm, perhaps, I just think its a waste upgrading the GPU right now knowing the real upgrades are coming soon with RDNA 2. The RX 5700XT is just filler to hold people over at best, and not even a good one since people are still having issues with it. I would have gotten rid of my RX 470 a while ago if the 5700XT was really that great. 

[VEXICUS]

1 minute ago, BlackManINC said:

 Hmmm, perhaps, I just think its a waste upgrading the GPU right now knowing the real upgrades are coming soon with RDNA 2. The RX 5700XT is just filler to hold people over at best, and not even a good one since people are still having issues with it. 

Dude, technology will keep on evolving. You cannot wait forever.

Who knows when the new GPUs will come in the ongoing pandemic.

[VEXICUS]

Also

12 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Okay, to tackle that, I would say that the GPU used in the above video is rtx 2080ti (Probably one of the fastest GPUs out there). Here there will always be a case of CPU bottleneck. 

 

Run those tests with a mid range gpu.

Look, the gap becomes negligible...

 

 

[BlackManINC]

8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Dude, technology will keep on evolving. You cannot wait forever.

Who knows when the new GPUs will come in the ongoing pandemic.

Waiting a few more months to a year for a possibly 50%+ performance boost is totally worth the wait for me. An RX 5700XT is chicken feed in comparison to the performance boost expected from the new ones. If I can wait with my old RX 470, he can definitely wait for a meaningful improvement with an RX 570 for his hard earned money. 

[GloriousPain]

Honestly I'd just suggest a new PSU and a GPU upgrade for now. Getting an 80+ Bronze or Gold of decent quality and the best RTX card you can afford; i don't know italian markets well but hopefully you can get an RTX 2060 super, if not atleast an RTX 2060 KO hopefully. 

 

Then go about selling the old GPU&PSU... and save up some extra change for a Ryzen 5 3600 if you're still not super happy with your performance. Call it a day at that point.

[VEXICUS]

1 hour ago, BlackManINC said:

Waiting a few more months to a year for a possibly 50%+ performance boost is totally worth the wait for me. An RX 5700XT is chicken feed in comparison to the performance boost expected from the new ones. If I can wait with my old RX 470, he can definitely wait for a meaningful improvement with an RX 570 for his hard earned money. 

Honestly speaking, he can get the 5700xt as a placeholder, and can sell it when the ampere and new Navi cards are out. I don't think it will be out by the end of this year. Many Nvidia and and vendor companies have shut down their production because of the ongoing pandemic.