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3300X or wait for 4000 series?

Hi, 

I have two three plans:

 

1. buy B550 and 3300X once those are on shelves. That's it.

2. buy B550 and 3300X once those are on shelves and upgrade to 4000 or 5000 series amd ryzen when those are out.

3. wait for 4000 series ryzen CPU's to arrive.

 

Current rig: 

i3-4150

gtx 970

6gb dd3 ram (4+2, don't ask)

 

My GPU is not so great, but damn even it gets bottlenecked hard by this CPU.

I can't really play new games... well at reasonable fps at least.

So I was wondering what would you do? Don't want to just throw money left and right, so not sure if buying 3300X now and upgrading later is a good decision, since you know... I'll play 130eur for new CPU and sell it later for 50eur at best.

 

Then there's also Intel... I currently play WoW mostly, and I've heard Intel is better for that game, how much true is it tho?

 

Thanks peeps.

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i would recommend option 2, then pick up maybe a 1650 super or 1660 super in the future

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you could modify option 2 to be buy b450 and a second hand 2600 and upgrade to 4000 series when it's out.

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1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

you could modify option 2 to be buy b450 and a second hand 2600 and upgrade to 4000 series when it's out.

I wouldn't go that route.  We still don't know exactly what support will look like for B450 with Ryzen 4000 CPUs.  

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not to mention there's 0 second hand processors (2600) being sold at the moment near me

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1 minute ago, nick name said:

I wouldn't go that route.  We still don't know exactly what support will look like for B450 with Ryzen 4000 CPUs.  

they've announced that 4000 series will be supported on b450 and x470 via beta bios

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Hello and welcome.

 

If you're shopping at the 3300X price point then waiting for the equivalent Ryzen 4000 chip will be quite a while.  What you might see is the Ryzen 3600 become more affordable after the Ryzen 4000 release though.  So a B550 board with a discounted Ryzen 3600 and then in another year the discounted Ryzen 4600 may not be terrible.  And then sit on that setup until you're ready to hop on the latest DDR5 supporting platform.  

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1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

they've announced that 4000 series will be supported on b450 and x470 via beta bios

I know what they announced.  What I said takes that into account.

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1 minute ago, nick name said:

Hello and welcome.

 

If you're shopping at the 3300X price point then waiting for the equivalent Ryzen 4000 chip will be quite a while.  What you might see is the Ryzen 3600 become more affordable after the Ryzen 4000 release though.  So a B550 board with a discounted Ryzen 3600 and then in another year the discounted Ryzen 4600 may not be terrible.  And then sit on that setup until you're ready to hop on the latest DDR5 supporting platform.  

oh I did not think about that... they will probably release 3900 / 3800 / 3700 replacements first...

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11 minutes ago, What Display Name said:

not to mention there's 0 second hand processors (2600) being sold at the moment near me

Everybody is waiting for 4000, no body selling.

My advice, get the cheapest AM4 cpu, maybe a $50 athlon and upgrade when it arrived.

My guess january is the earliest.

9 minutes ago, What Display Name said:

oh I did not think about that... they will probably release 3900 / 3800 / 3700 replacements first...

yes, low end will come later, 2-3 months after 4600.

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