Cooling

[Soldier_boy]

hi everyone!

i got a 3700X and i think my stock cooler isn't doing a good job. it feels like its throwing the heat to the case (Fractal Design Meshify C) space and making it even more difficult i have a GTX 1070TI that's generating tons of heat on its own. i have 2 intakes on the top, 2 intakes in the front, an exhaust at the rear and another exhaust on the bottom front fan mount. i have a feeling I'm doing something wrong here with the cooling and because of that i get stutters and frame drops

do you have any suggestions? things i should buy? things i should reconfigure? 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Soldier_boy said:

hi everyone!

i got a 3700X and i think my stock cooler isn't doing a good job. it feels like its throwing the heat to the case (Fractal Design Meshify C) space and making it even more difficult i have a GTX 1070TI that's generating tons of heat on its own. i have 2 intakes on the top, 2 intakes in the front, an exhaust at the rear and another exhaust on the bottom front fan mount. i have a feeling I'm doing something wrong here with the cooling and because of that i get stutters and frame drops

do you have any suggestions? things i should buy? things i should reconfigure? 

What amount of money are you willing to spend on a cooler?

What would you prefer an aio or an air cooler ?

But most importantly budget?

 

[Mateyyy]

Before buying a new CPU cooler I'd first try setting up my fans in a way that actually makes sense. Set your front and bottom fans as intakes, and rear and top fans as exhausts.

The stock cooler should be fine for stock speeds. What temperatures are you hitting on your CPU that it makes you think that that's what's causing stuttering/frame drops in games (check with Ryzen Master or HWiNFO)?

 

Also, please don't make three separate posts for the same thing. We'll see it even if you post it once in a single section of the forum.

[Slottr]

-Merged-

 

You only need to post once

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, Soldier_boy said:

hi everyone!

i got a 3700X and i think my stock cooler isn't doing a good job. it feels like its throwing the heat to the case (Fractal Design Meshify C) space and making it even more difficult i have a GTX 1070TI that's generating tons of heat on its own. i have 2 intakes on the top, 2 intakes in the front, an exhaust at the rear and another exhaust on the bottom front fan mount. i have a feeling I'm doing something wrong here with the cooling and because of that i get stutters and frame drops

do you have any suggestions? things i should buy? things i should reconfigure? 

Change the top 2 to exhaust and the bottom to intake

 

What ram do you have and what is the configuration

[Soldier_boy]

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

What amount of money are you willing to spend on a cooler?

What would you prefer an aio or an air cooler ?

But most importantly budget?

 

id say around 300$ although it feels a lot for a cooler. i have corsair products so would be nice to have corsair but not a must. and i don't mind air or AIO cooler but if there is a budget option for a good AIO that would be nice, thinking AIO's are generally better than air coolers

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, Soldier_boy said:

id say around 300$ although it feels a lot for a cooler. i have corsair products so would be nice to have corsair but not a must. and i don't mind air or AIO cooler but if there is a budget option for a good AIO that would be nice, thinking AIO's are generally better than air coolers

fix your case flow first.

 

heat rises btw

[Soldier_boy]

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

Before buying a new CPU cooler I'd first try setting up my fans in a way that actually makes sense. Set your front and bottom fans as intakes, and rear and top fans as exhausts.

The stock cooler should be fine for stock speeds. What temperatures are you hitting on your CPU that it makes you think that that's what's causing stuttering/frame drops in games (check with Ryzen Master or HWiNFO)?

 

Also, please don't make three separate posts for the same thing. We'll see it even if you post it once in a single section of the forum.

i can set it that way but im afraid the top exhaust will take fresh air from the CPU from the top front fan. what do you think?

im getting 63.3 on my CPU and 57 on gpu (both are from the max column on HWinfo)

 

[Haro]

8 minutes ago, Soldier_boy said:

id say around 300$ although it feels a lot for a cooler. i have corsair products so would be nice to have corsair but not a must. and i don't mind air or AIO cooler but if there is a budget option for a good AIO that would be nice, thinking AIO's are generally better than air coolers

I didn't read the airflow part of your post but now that I have I agree with @Mister Woof said 

First improve airflow and then the cooler 

[Haro]

Just now, Soldier_boy said:

im afraid the top exhaust will take fresh air from the CPU from the top front fan. what do you think?

No it won't do that 

If there is intake inthe front the cpu will get the fresh air from there (typically the best config )

[Mister Woof]

do this

 

[Soldier_boy]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

Change the top 2 to exhaust and the bottom to intake

 

What ram do you have and what is the configuration

2X16GB sticks of vengeance pro rgb 3000mhz

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Soldier_boy said:

2X16GB sticks of vengeance pro rgb 3000mhz

elaborate on stutters and frame drops.

 

what games

 

what settings

 

what situations

[Soldier_boy]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

do this

 

 

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

No it won't do that 

If there is intake inthe front the cpu will get the fresh air from there (typically the best config )

ill give it a try and come back to you guys, thanks!

[Soldier_boy]

On 5/18/2020 at 8:23 PM, Mister Woof said:

Change the top 2 to exhaust and the bottom to intake

 

What ram do you have and what is the configuration

 

On 5/18/2020 at 8:16 PM, Mateyyy said:

Before buying a new CPU cooler I'd first try setting up my fans in a way that actually makes sense. Set your front and bottom fans as intakes, and rear and top fans as exhausts.

The stock cooler should be fine for stock speeds. What temperatures are you hitting on your CPU that it makes you think that that's what's causing stuttering/frame drops in games (check with Ryzen Master or HWiNFO)?

 

Also, please don't make three separate posts for the same thing. We'll see it even if you post it once in a single section of the forum.

hey guys, coming back to you with results (took way to long then it should, personal life issues)

after configurating my fans to 3 intakes at the front and 3 exhaust (2 top and 1 rear) the system feels a lot better.

using HWiNFO64 im getting 459 C on CPU Die on average and 55C on the GPU (after using spotify for a couple of hours (and watching an LTT video haha)

after playing for an hour (apex legends) im getting 50.5 on CPU and 59 on GPU 

it feels a ton better and i have to thank you guys for the help, tho im still having stuttering and frame drops... any suggestions?

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Soldier_boy said:

459 C

I'm gonna assume you mean 59c

[Mister Woof]

41 minutes ago, Soldier_boy said:

 

hey guys, coming back to you with results (took way to long then it should, personal life issues)

after configurating my fans to 3 intakes at the front and 3 exhaust (2 top and 1 rear) the system feels a lot better.

using HWiNFO64 im getting 459 C on CPU Die on average and 55C on the GPU (after using spotify for a couple of hours (and watching an LTT video haha)

after playing for an hour (apex legends) im getting 50.5 on CPU and 59 on GPU 

it feels a ton better and i have to thank you guys for the help, tho im still having stuttering and frame drops... any suggestions?

can you report what windows resource manager says for your memory usage?

 

task manager -> performance -> memory

 

specifically under hardware reserved section

 

tab

[Haro]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

can you report what windows resource manager says for your memory usage?

 

task manager -> performance -> memory

 

specifically under hardware reserved section

 

tab

And do you have xmp/dcop on ?

[Soldier_boy]

19 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

I'm gonna assume you mean 59c

lol yeah haha

[Soldier_boy]

18 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

can you report what windows resource manager says for your memory usage?

 

task manager -> performance -> memory

 

specifically under hardware reserved section

 

tab

 

18 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

And do you have xmp/dcop on ?

i do have dcop on. i also set it to asus optimal in the bios (seem'd like a good choice, i think it does something like an AI overclock or something lik e that)

[Soldier_boy]

so what do i do? @Mister Woof

[Mister Woof]

52 minutes ago, Soldier_boy said:

so what do i do? @Mister Woof

I don't really know what's the next step.

 

Some user get hardware reserved ram problem but doesn't seem to be case.

 

What games, what resolution, and what do you mean by frame drops/stuttering?

[Soldier_boy]

i mainly play apex legends. i play on 1080p, not pushing the setting too much. and by frame drops/ stuttering i mean the game just suddenly gets stuck for a super short moment (feels like a frame) and i look at the frame counter and see that i dropped from 144 to 30 and its rising back up. sometimes its server issues (i can tell by the weird server signs appearing in the right corner of the screen) but usually it looks like its my PCs problem. is there any chance that the problem is the HDD? i have a 7200rpm toshiba one that is about 5 y.o