DT990 PRO uncomfortable, need pads / headphones suggestions.

[Fullbok]

So yea, I bought the DT990 PROs like 2weeks ago and after being patience in the "break-in" period I these headphones are just uncomfortable on my head simply because the right ear keeps rubbing against the driver, earpads seem to be too shallow, I have tried fitting material under the pad but that hurts even more making the pad harder with even a very light clamping force.

Was thinking of buying some 3rd parties earpads like Brainwavz or Dekori (can get expensive) but literally saw every review saying " any other pad that is not the OEMs will make the DT990 pretty bad.." so not really sure what to do.

An alternative would be returning these babies and getting other headphones for a similar price range, maybe up to 200€ (bought the dt990s for 110€). Gotta say that I use the headphones mainly for gaming and just some music, I do enjoy the Vshape of the dt990s and the treble is not that bad even tho I'm new to this world as these are my first pair of "non gaming" headphones.

Any help would be appreciated.

[The Flying Sloth]

Rice will probably chime in on this one and his recommendation is usually the sheepskin pads from Aliexpress. 
I don't have a link for them handy but from what I've seen on this forum they seem to be damn good for the money.

Sloth

[Fullbok]

1 minute ago, The Flying Sloth said:

Rice will probably chime in on this one and his recommendation is usually the sheepskin pads from Aliexpress. 
I don't have a link for them handy but from what I've seen on this forum they seem to be damn good for the money.

Sloth

I see, will wait for his reply then but won't sheepskin pads "destroy" the open back sound ? Was looking at the Dekoni elite valour pads even tho they're 50€ but heard they're pretty good

 

[The Flying Sloth]

Just now, Fullbok said:

won't sheepskin pads "destroy" the open back sound ? 

 

How so? the open back has nothing to do with the pads.
Sheepskin ones are between 12-15 Euro if the conversion rate in my head is correct.

Sloth

[Fullbok]

2 minutes ago, The Flying Sloth said:

How so? the open back has nothing to do with the pads.
Sheepskin ones are between 12-15 Euro if the conversion rate in my head is correct.

Sloth

I saw that pads change not only the low and high freqs but can narrow the sound range.

Seen many people saying "leather for closed, velour for open"

[rice guru]

unfortunately I like the comfort as I have broken them in at this point. I really like the stock beyer pads so hard for me to chime in sorry

[rice guru]

https://www.afkheadphones.com/ the afk khan mod seems to use dekoni velours though

[Tigerleon]

10 hours ago, Fullbok said:

I saw that pads change not only the low and high freqs but can narrow the sound range.

Seen many people saying "leather for closed, velour for open"

This is true. It does change the sound signature. But not a lot I would say. Try the dt 770 pads because they are more stiff if you are saying that the dt 990 pads are too soft.

[Fullbok]

9 hours ago, rice guru said:

https://www.afkheadphones.com/ the afk khan mod seems to use dekoni velours though

Oof, those pads would cost 60+70€ lol

Hopefully they'll be worth it

[Fullbok]

6 minutes ago, Tigerleon said:

This is true. It does change the sound signature. But not a lot I would say. Try the dt 770 pads because they are more stiff if you are saying that the dt 990 pads are too soft.

Mhh, I'll see , either those to try or the dekoni.

The problem is nto that they're too soft , but too shallow for my right ear

[Tigerleon]

2 hours ago, Fullbok said:

Mhh, I'll see , either those to try or the dekoni.

The problem is nto that they're too soft , but too shallow for my right ear

For how long have you had the pads? I ordered new ones because mine are squished. I wouldn't go for the expensive ones. The may be good but the price isn't worth like 2/3 of the headphone itself. So get cheap ones but don't get leather or whatever it is called. Because it will change the sound signature a bit.

[Tigerleon]

I feel like I wouldn't like to change the pads on mine to another brand since it can ruin the sound I am familiar with and that I like already. If you like to keep the highs then stock pads. If you like more overpowered bass and make you not hear the mids at all go for leather. I would actually go for the 770 pads. They are more stiff and doesn't make your ears sink in too much.

[Fullbok]

26 minutes ago, Tigerleon said:

For how long have you had the pads? I ordered new ones because mine are squished. I wouldn't go for the expensive ones. The may be good but the price isn't worth like 2/3 of the headphone itself. So get cheap ones but don't get leather or whatever it is called. Because it will change the sound signature a bit.

Literally bought the headphones 2 weeks ago, been using them almost all day everyday since quarantined.

Price wise , true I don't think it's worth getting 60€ earpads just for 110€ headphones, i could return the dt990s and get 200€+ headphones at that point lol.

Don't know if the Brainwavz would fit nicely since they're 110mm where as the dt990's driver size is 100mm , if so I'd go with either microsuede XLs (only option available) or the velour XL, both for 25€ which is much better than dekoni's 60€ (price wise, not sure about sound changes)

26 minutes ago, Tigerleon said:

I feel like I wouldn't like to change the pads on mine to another brand since it can ruin the sound I am familiar with and that I like already. If you like to keep the highs then stock pads. If you like more overpowered bass and make you not hear the mids at all go for leather. I would actually go for the 770 pads. They are more stiff and doesn't make your ears sink in too much.

I enjoy the sound alot, applied some EQ settings from /r/headphones oratory1990's iirc and I like them much better since it lowers the highs a little bit.

I would not go leather, read that it can narrow the sound range and make them too bassy.

Not sure about 770pads tbh , they're made for dt770's closed back design so won't be as good as dt990, but being stiffer, they could solve my problem of having the ear rubbing the internal driver (what a shame, I just love these headphones and kinda disappointed having to deal with these stupid things).

 

[Tigerleon]

1 minute ago, Fullbok said:

Literally bought the headphones 2 weeks ago, been using them almost all day everyday since quarantined.

Price wise , true I don't think it's worth getting 60€ earpads just for 110€ headphones, i could return the dt990s and get 200€+ headphones at that point lol.

Don't know if the Brainwavz would fit nicely since they're 110mm where as the dt990's driver size is 100mm , if so I'd go with either microsuede XLs (only option available) or the velour XL, both for 25€ which is much better than dekoni's 60€ (price wise, not sure about sound changes)

I enjoy the sound alot, applied some EQ settings from /r/headphones oratory1990's iirc and I like them much better since it lowers the highs a little bit.

I would not go leather, read that it can narrow the sound range and make them too bassy.

Not sure about 770pads tbh , they're made for dt770's closed back design so won't be as good as dt990, but being stiffer, they could solve my problem of having the ear rubbing the internal driver (what a shame, I just love these headphones and kinda disappointed having to deal with these stupid things).

 

Yeah. Just go for what you think is the best. Buy one pair of pads. If you don't like them see if it is possible to return. You said the dt 770 pads are made for closed back. Nah not really. They still have those holes in the rubber that makes them breathe the sound. The only difference is the stiffness of the pads. I guess they have a little more isolation in them. But the sound signature will most likely not change from the 990 to 770 pads. 

[Tigerleon]

 

5 minutes ago, Fullbok said:

Literally bought the headphones 2 weeks ago, been using them almost all day everyday since quarantined.

Price wise , true I don't think it's worth getting 60€ earpads just for 110€ headphones, i could return the dt990s and get 200€+ headphones at that point lol.

Don't know if the Brainwavz would fit nicely since they're 110mm where as the dt990's driver size is 100mm , if so I'd go with either microsuede XLs (only option available) or the velour XL, both for 25€ which is much better than dekoni's 60€ (price wise, not sure about sound changes)

I enjoy the sound alot, applied some EQ settings from /r/headphones oratory1990's iirc and I like them much better since it lowers the highs a little bit.

I would not go leather, read that it can narrow the sound range and make them too bassy.

Not sure about 770pads tbh , they're made for dt770's closed back design so won't be as good as dt990, but being stiffer, they could solve my problem of having the ear rubbing the internal driver (what a shame, I just love these headphones and kinda disappointed having to deal with these stupid things).

 

Now this will sound stupid because you have most likely tried it. Try to adjust them in every single way. bend the headband more out so they don't push on your ears too much. You can also try to bend the metal arch thing where they meet up in the sliders. Just try all those things and maybe it will fit better? I don't know the shape of your ears or head so I wouldn't know if that works.

[Fullbok]

11 minutes ago, Tigerleon said:

Yeah. Just go for what you think is the best. Buy one pair of pads. If you don't like them see if it is possible to return. You said the dt 770 pads are made for closed back. Nah not really. They still have those holes in the rubber that makes them breathe the sound. The only difference is the stiffness of the pads. I guess they have a little more isolation in them. But the sound signature will most likely not change from the 990 to 770 pads. 

mhh ok, yea they isolate a bit more but I guess they won't be that bad.

You still using the dt990s ? I can always return them and get other sennys maybe, like the hd6xx or other models. Good headphones for gaming mainly tho

8 minutes ago, Tigerleon said:

 

Now this will sound stupid because you have most likely tried it. Try to adjust them in every single way. bend the headband more out so they don't push on your ears too much. You can also try to bend the metal arch thing where they meet up in the sliders. Just try all those things and maybe it will fit better? I don't know the shape of your ears or head so I wouldn't know if that works.

Yea I have tried adjusting them in every way, actually too much since I even tried them with literally 0 clamping force straightening the headband but that's just horrible to wear since they'll fall off my head even with the lightest move.

Even tried putting some materials like toilet paper, cotton pads and even my g430's old earpad's foam which I cut, but yea that pushes the driver away , but shifting the pain to the temporal bone as I'm a glasses wearer ..

 

Without the material the driver sits flush to the ear , hurting after 10 mins

With the material the driver sits slightly away from the ear making it not hurt but shifting the "pads" clamping force I guess to the opposite side, where the glasses arm is, giving me an headache after a couple of hours

 

fun huh ?

Edited May 16, 2020 by Fullbok
gaming headphones.

[Tigerleon]

15 minutes ago, Fullbok said:

mhh ok, yea they isolate a bit more but I guess they won't be that bad.

You still using the dt990s ? I can always return them and get other sennys maybe, like the hd6xx or other models. Good headphones for gaming mainly tho

Yea I have tried adjusting them in every way, actually too much since I even tried them with literally 0 clamping force straightening the headband but that's just horrible to wear since they'll fall off my head even with the lightest move.

Even tried putting some materials like toilet paper, cotton pads and even my g430's old earpad's foam which I cut, but yea that pushes the driver away , but shifting the pain to the temporal bone as I'm a glasses wearer ..

 

Without the material the driver sits flush to the ear , hurting after 10 mins

With the material the driver sits slightly away from the ear making it not hurt but shifting the "pads" clamping force I guess to the opposite side, where the glasses arm is, giving me an headache after a couple of hours

 

fun huh ?

Then there is no point getting pads. Just buy The 6xx

[Fullbok]

8 minutes ago, Tigerleon said:

Then there is no point getting pads. Just buy The 6xx

Reading that was actually like an arrow hitting my heart

 

[Fullbok]

13 hours ago, rice guru said:

unfortunately I like the comfort as I have broken them in at this point. I really like the stock beyer pads so hard for me to chime in sorry

Sorry for quoting you again but saw you have both dt990 and hd58x.

Since there's actually no point in buying other pads for my dt990, how about i return them and get other pairs, what would you recommend ? Are hd58x "good" for gaming ?

[Tigerleon]

2 minutes ago, Fullbok said:

Sorry for quoting you again but saw you have both dt990 and hd58x.

Since there's actually no point in buying other pads for my dt990, how about i return them and get other pairs, what would you recommend ? Are hd58x "good" for gaming ?

Yeah. They are pretty good actually. Sorry I thought you quoted me

[rice guru]

2 minutes ago, Fullbok said:

Sorry for quoting you again but saw you have both dt990 and hd58x.

Since there's actually no point in buying other pads for my dt990, how about i return them and get other pairs, what would you recommend ? Are hd58x "good" for gaming ?

dont worry about it qoute me all you want. while not as good as the 990 its pretty excellent for gaming awesome imaging but much more intimate. the sound of these lean more neutral with a clear forcus on the mids and pucnhy bass. the bass isnt more than the 990 but focuses on being nice and punchy. not a lot of treble just a smooth laid back sound I find. the comfort to me isnt as good as the 990 pro has more clmap but the pads break in in a week,  I would fist try ordering  other pads like the brainwavz and if it doesnt work just return both then try other headphones. the only thing I can think of more comfortable than the 990 that does the same gaming performance is the premium 990 and 880  which has significantly less clamp

[Fullbok]

6 minutes ago, rice guru said:

dont worry about it qoute me all you want. while not as good as the 990 its pretty excellent for gaming awesome imaging but much more intimate. the sound of these lean more neutral with a clear forcus on the mids and pucnhy bass. the bass isnt more than the 990 but focuses on being nice and punchy. not a lot of treble just a smooth laid back sound I find. the comfort to me isnt as good as the 990 pro has more clmap but the pads break in in a week,  I would fist try ordering  other pads like the brainwavz and if it doesnt work just return both then try other headphones. the only thing I can think of more comfortable than the 990 that does the same gaming performance is the premium 990 and 880  which has significantly less clamp

I will be getting brainwavz to test then, even tho the XL are 110mm whereas the stock dt990 are 100mm .

Would you get velour over micro suede?

Also I need to act fast lol hopefully the pads arrive before the 31st coz that's when Amazon return's time for the dt990 end. Don't want to be stuck with headphones that dont suit my ears.

[rice guru]

24 minutes ago, Fullbok said:

I will be getting brainwavz to test then, even tho the XL are 110mm whereas the stock dt990 are 100mm .

Would you get velour over micro suede?

Also I need to act fast lol hopefully the pads arrive before the 31st coz that's when Amazon return's time for the dt990 end. Don't want to be stuck with headphones that dont suit my ears.

i personally prefer velour

[Fullbok]

4 minutes ago, rice guru said:

i personally prefer velour

Alright, tyvm buddy, will be ordering the brainwavz XL velour on monday, hopefully they'll be good without changing the sound too much, but I'll take that for the prefect price of 118€ as my first headphones, will probably sound better than my old g430 even with thirdparties pads. 

[The Flying Sloth]

Well this thread is the one with the sheepskin pads on a DT990 in it, might be worth a read but it looks like I'm too late