Is my 2080ti Bottlenecked by my 5820k?

[NasNoosi]

I built my system about 5 years ago and just recently upgraded to a 2080ti fps is good but not as good as it could be with pretty big fluctuations in game. (30-40fps fluctuations)

CPU 5820k

GPU 2080ti

Mobo x99a MSI gaming

PSU - Corsair 650x

Ram - 16gb

I've attached a short log of me in game if it helps.

Just want to clarify if a bottleneck is occurring im pretty sure it is just wanted some other opinions

 

HardwareMonitoring.hml

[jaslion]

5 minutes ago, NasNoosi said:

I built my system about 5 years ago and just recently upgraded to a 2080ti fps is good but not as good as it could be with pretty big fluctuations in game. (30-40fps fluctuations)

CPU 5820k

GPU 2080ti

Mobo x99a MSI gaming

PSU - Corsair 650x

Ram - 16gb

I've attached a short log of me in game if it helps.

Just want to clarify if a bottleneck is occurring im pretty sure it is just wanted some other opinions

 

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Oc'd your 5820k? Fps fluctuations are normal if you are playing at like 100fps plus in intensive games during intense moments.

[NasNoosi]

Has not been overclocked once, that's true but these are pretty big fluctuations im talking 40 fps, i drop to about 90 which is the lowest and close to the highest i would get on my old 1060 msi 6gb card, so i am not sure whats going on.

[Statik]

I would definitely say there's quite a big bottleneck. That's a discontinued 6 core CPU from 2014.

 

I would personally recommend upgrading to a 3700x minimum, or if you are down to wait, a 4000 series equivalent.

 

EDIT: What resolution are you playing?

[NasNoosi]

Also we are talking about the game Call of duty Warzone 

[Haro]

11 minutes ago, NasNoosi said:

30-40fps fluctuations)

Probably bad frame time

Your GPU is most likely being bottle necked not because of it being slow 

But even if you oce it 

It suffers from bad ipc count which will result in bad frame time aka stutter 

And you probably are being bottle necked

[Haro]

1 minute ago, NasNoosi said:

Also we are talking about the game Call of duty Warzone 

That doesn't matter 

Bad frame time is bad frame time

[NasNoosi]

1 minute ago, Statik said:

I would definitely say there's quite a big bottleneck. That's a discontinued 6 core CPU from 2014.

 

I would personally recommend upgrading to a 3700x minimum, or if you are down to wait, a 4000 series equivalent.

 

EDIT: What resolution are you playing?

1920x1080p i figured i was being bottle necked as the cpu is becoming ancient

[Statik]

1 minute ago, NasNoosi said:

1920x1080p i figured i was being bottle necked as the cpu is becoming ancient

Out of curiosity why did you purchase a 2080Ti for 1080p gaming? You could have saved probably $1000 dollars with a 5700XT, or a 2070S. You could have even splurged and gotten a 2080S for 1080p, but that's excessive.

 

If you upgrade to 1440p as somepoint you might see "better" performance, as higher resolutions tend to put more pressure on the GPU, and less on the CPU.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, NasNoosi said:

1920x1080p i figured i was being bottle necked as the cpu is becoming ancient

Yea it's not it being necessarily slow 

It just lacks ipc count which is critical in getting a good frame time 

[Kwikgta]

I agree. Up to 1440p and overclock the cpu.

 

[NasNoosi]

1 minute ago, Statik said:

Out of curiosity why did you purchase a 2080Ti for 1080p gaming? You could have saved probably $1000 dollars with a 5700XT, or a 2070S. You could have even splurged and gotten a 2080S for 1080p, but that's excessive.

 

If you upgrade to 1440p as somepoint you might see "better" performance, as higher resolutions tend to put more pressure on the GPU, and less on the CPU.

I am trying to get into streaming and just wanted to get the best card i could for as much as i could, but now it seems as tho i need to upgrade my mobo and cpu to keep up with the new card

[NasNoosi]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea it's not it being necessarily slow 

It just lacks ipc count which is critical in getting a good frame time 

Cpu upgrade the way to go ?

 

[NasNoosi]

2 minutes ago, Kwikgta said:

I agree. Up to 1440p and overclock the cpu.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Statik said:

If you upgrade to 1440p as somepoint you might see "better" performance, as higher resolutions tend to put more pressure on the GPU, and less on the CPU.

Ill give these a go now and see how it fairs in game.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, Statik said:

If you upgrade to 1440p as somepoint you might see "better" performance, as higher resolutions tend to put more pressure on the GPU, and less on the CPU.

I do completely agree with you 

He won't need to cpu and platform upgrade and will only need to upgrade his monitor

[Statik]

Just now, NasNoosi said:

I am trying to get into streaming and just wanted to get the best card i could for as much as i could, but now it seems as tho i need to upgrade my mobo and cpu to keep up with the new card

I see where you're coming from. I personally just never recommend a 2080Ti, just since it's 50-75% more, for like a 5% increase in games. I can stream no problemo with my 2080S. But regardless, the best thing you could do now is try to OC your CPU as far as it can reasonably go, and if possible play at a higher resolution.

[Haro]

Just now, NasNoosi said:

Cpu upgrade the way to go ?

 

No not Necessarily I agree with the route @Statik  suggested

[Haro]

Just now, Statik said:

I see where you're coming from. I personally just never recommend a 2080Ti, just since it's 50-75% more, for like a 5% increase in games. I can stream no problemo with my 2080S. But regardless, the best thing you could do now is try to OC your CPU as far as it can reasonably go, and if possible play at a higher resolution.

And if you want to stream just use nvec other than h264  so you won't over load the cpu

[Statik]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

I do completely agree with you 

He won't need to cpu and platform upgrade and will only need to upgrade his monitor

It's still a bottleneck. If he had the option to ugrade his platform, or upgrade his monitor, I would probably recommend upgrading his platform, simply because that will get him the most bang for his buck.

 

However, it seems he's still getting good FPS in games, so I would say a decent idea would be to upgrade to 1440p (because it's on its way to being the new 1080p), and then down the road upgrade to Ryzen 4000.

[Statik]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

And if you want to stream just use nvec other than h264  so you won't over load the cpu

If he can't handle streaming at all then yeah, that's a good option, but if possible I'd recommend 264 whenever possible for increased quality. If it's casual streaming then who cares, but if OP is someone whos trying to take content creation seriously, then that's going to have a negative impact. But you're right that if he can't stream now, that's his best option.

[Guest]

I like the upgrade resolution idea, it will put more stress on the GPU where it's needed.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Statik said:

It's still a bottleneck. If he had the option to ugrade his platform, or upgrade his monitor, I would probably recommend upgrading his platform, simply because that will get him the most bang for his buck.

True it's still a bottleneck but it will be more GPU heavy which (while still  the same load on the cpu ) the GPU will have to do more job 

So it evens it s little more 

[Kwikgta]

Why not upgrade the monitor first and overclock the 5820 some and see how it does? Then decide whether a full platform upgrade is needed or not.

[NasNoosi]

5 minutes ago, Statik said:

It's still a bottleneck. If he had the option to ugrade his platform, or upgrade his monitor, I would probably recommend upgrading his platform, simply because that will get him the most bang for his buck.

 

However, it seems he's still getting good FPS in games, so I would say a decent idea would be to upgrade to 1440p (because it's on its way to being the new 1080p), and then down the road upgrade to Ryzen 4000.

I think its honestly just time for a upgrade this build is going on 6 years now although its still running fine right now i do not see it keeping up in the near future.

9 minutes ago, Statik said:

so I would say a decent idea would be to upgrade to 1440p

 

7 minutes ago, Kwikgta said:

Why not upgrade the monitor first

I really do not want to buy a new monitor atm as there is nothing wrong with my 240hz monitor i have atm and really want to tackle the pc issues first.

 

9 minutes ago, Statik said:

If he can't handle streaming at all then yeah, that's a good option, but if possible I'd recommend 264 whenever possible for increased quality. If it's casual streaming then who cares, but if OP is someone whos trying to take content creation seriously, then that's going to have a negative impact. But you're right that if he can't stream now, that's his best option.

I can stream perfectly right now through NDI using 2 pc setup my only issue is getting the most fps i can in game so that it looks cleaner on stream, atm its fine just i have this thing where i want it to be the best i can potentially get it so i know at this current moment my pc is handicapped