8320 vs 4670k

[Imabigmac]

out of my price range.

then save your

money

[Priller]

look at the difference between last generation and this generation, the difference is almost not there.

 

Yup and Intel will keep doing it until AMD makes something that will motivate Intel.

 

Intel will keep giving small improvements on the same manufacturing process as long as it can to keep pocketing money. And that trend will continue to happen as long as people automatically spend money on Intel CPUs. It makes Intel and mobo manufacturers very happy they can spit out similar CPUs made on the same process and motherboard manufacturers can keep selling you a new board to go with it.

[acidydragon]

then save your

money

A 4770 k only gives hyperthreading, that's not something I need for playing games. Not for $100 either.

[Imabigmac]

A 4770 k only gives hyperthreading, that's not something I need for playing games. Not for $100 either.

that depends, there is a difference in gaming performance between an i5 and the i7.

[acidydragon]

that depends, there is a difference in gaming performance between an i5 and the i7.

that's not what just about everyone else on the form has said. Do you have benchmarks to back that up?

[rentaspoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLRZxRL8N8&feature=youtube_gdata_player '>

Its not an exact comparison but Jayz puts it well in this video

[Imabigmac]

that's not what just about everyone else on the form has said. Do you have benchmarks to back that up?

I never said how much of difference.

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/8.html

 

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=11

 

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61451-intel-haswell-i7-4770k-i5-4670k-review-16.html

[Faa]

why wouldn't I just get the 4670 K

 

Then you should.

 

Its not an exact comparison but Jayz puts it well in this video

Yeah someone who claims theres only a minor difference between AMD & Intel would mean that Intel is literally a waste of money and it's out of the competition already unless they drop their prices so his video is just flatout misinformative.

[rentaspoon]

Yeah someone who claims theres only a minor difference between AMD & Intel would mean that Intel is literally a waste of money and it's out of the competition already unless they drop their prices so his video is just flatout misinformative.

Care to prove otherwise? I found it very informative, intel have many things going for them but "bang for buck" isn't one of them, I'm surprised at how little power they're processors use for one example.

[Faa]

Care to prove otherwise? I found it very informative, intel have many things going for them but "bang for buck" isn't one of them, I'm surprised at how little power they're processors use for one example.

The logic proves it. Nobody would pay more for 5% more performance like he claimed except hardcore enthusiasts, that would make Intel drop their prices which we didn't see for almost 7 or 8 years

[rentaspoon]

The logic proves it. Nobody would pay more for 5% more performance like he claimed except hardcore enthusiasts, that would make Intel drop their prices which we didn't see for almost 7 or 8 years

Ok so I'm confused where your coming from.

[calarahil]

I would stick with what you have currently. Yes you will get better single threaded performance out of the intel counterpart and the memory controller is stronger yes. However, if you are 1.) able to play the games you want at the settings you want stay put. 2.) you are able to upgrade your gpu and be fine stay put. 3.) During the WAN show slick and linus have talked about CPU performance not really increasing a ton over the last generations of processors. I have a i5 2500k and I'm not looking to upgrade for another 2 generations or so of CPU's because it's not a urgent thing for me to do.

[Faa]

Ok so I'm confused where your coming from.

People being informed like you are totally confusing me. Theres no goddamn reason to get Intel if they would only perform a tiny bit better over AMD. I wouldn't get a 3930K over a fx4100 it was only performing 2-5% better in all games.

[acidydragon]

I would stick with what you have currently. Yes you will get better single threaded performance out of the intel counterpart and the memory controller is stronger yes. However, if you are 1.) able to play the games you want at the settings you want stay put. 2.) you are able to upgrade your gpu and be fine stay put. 3.) During the WAN show slick and linus have talked about CPU performance not really increasing a ton over the last generations of processors. I have a i5 2500k and I'm not looking to upgrade for another 2 generations or so of CPU's because it's not a urgent thing for me to do.

Them not increasing is one thing that I agree with,

However, I don't just have a sandy bridge-e or something, I have a different chip.

Linus did an 8350 vs 3570k video, and the 3570k won. So if the 4670k is even a minor bit better, it still wins.

 

For the performance boost (if it's big as some say, or even just a nudge), and the better MB (Note: My Sabertooth is great, but not as great as the Maximus VI Formula for Water Cooling), I would argue that the 4670k would be a better route?

 

Especially because I can sell my MB and CPU to my brother for around $300 dollars. (The new stuff will total at  $500, with a very nice Motherboard)

[acidydragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLRZxRL8N8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Its not an exact comparison but Jayz puts it well in this video

He says his 8350 is clocked at 5.1 Ghz...

He got a VERY binned chip...

I'm sitting on 4.5Ghz

[calarahil]

Them not increasing is one thing that I agree with,

However, I don't just have a sandy bridge-e or something, I have a different chip.

Linus did an 8350 vs 3570k video, and the 3570k won. So if the 4670k is even a minor bit better, it still wins.

 

For the performance boost (if it's big as some say, or even just a nudge), and the better MB (Note: My Sabertooth is great, but not as great as the Maximus VI Formula for Water Cooling), I would argue that the 4670k would be a better route?

 

Especially because I can sell my MB and CPU to my brother for around $300 dollars. (The new stuff will total at  $500, with a very nice Motherboard)

If you are willing to spend the money on the platform and feel the marginal difference in real life performance is worth it then all the best to you

[acidydragon]

If you are willing to spend the money on the platform and feel the marginal difference in real life performance is worth it then all the best to you

I mean, the CPU is pretty much free, I'm just spending money on a new Motherboard... Which in the end, is much more friendly to Water Cooling... I guess it's worth it to me. Thanks for all of the help everyone!

[samuel]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=26UKz42uQ1Y

only 50 watts difference in power usage? Throttled cpu, that's why we see such low results on the amd side.But i love the profesionalism.

[D3MON]

As someone who doesn't care to look at my FPS while I play (I want to be IN the game), this explains where my stuttering came from.

Do you know if there's any reason he didn't overclock the i5... like... any?

He shows how high the 8350 can get at a (some of the time) unreachable level (you have to put your voltage over the recommended stopping point [google guides on 8350 4.8ghz])

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

pretty much the same for every game, an 8320 is more powerful than a quad core i5 in video rendering etc and in games your gpu limited so so much for the better gaming arguement and a 4770k costs 150% more, only reason id go intel is for the chipset features like caching ssds but theres ways around that...

buy a 4k monitor maybe?

[tacticalpanic]

People said the same thing about the quad 2 core vs the duel core in 2007 , and pretty much the same applys here , by the time the fx 8 core amd chip is better than a 4 core i5 due to games utilising more than 4 cores , there will be cpu's that are way better than them making them obsolete.

 

buy a 2nd 780 , it will give way way way more returns for the money as far as gaming goes.

[acidydragon]

People said the same thing about the quad 2 core vs the duel core in 2007 , and pretty much the same applys here , by the time the fx 8 core amd chip is better than a 4 core i5 due to games utilising more than 4 cores , there will be cpu's that are way better than them making them obsolete.

 

buy a 2nd 780 , it will give way way way more returns for the money as far as gaming goes.

Alright, time to stop ignoring this comment.

NO, buying a second GPU won't make my games run better.

My GPU as it is, isn't hitting 100%, MEANING, getting a second, would just be a waste.

My bottleneck sits on my CPU, not my GPU.

 

Not attacking you, everyone keeps saying it, but it's not a good idea...

[harrynowl]

Alright, time to stop ignoring this comment.

NO, buying a second GPU won't make my games run better.

My GPU as it is, isn't hitting 100%, MEANING, getting a second, would just be a waste.

My bottleneck sits on my CPU, not my GPU.

 

Not attacking you, everyone keeps saying it, but it's not a good idea...

Get a 4670K, delid it and put a custom loop on it