8-cores the future?

[Nena Trinity]

Is buying a quad-core with HT a mistake? Or a hexa-core with SMT for that matter? Since next generation of consoles will have 8, should gamers avoid quad and hexa cores or is the 8 core Zen 2s in the new console downclocked so much PC gamers should not even worry? 

[Skiiwee29]

6-8 cores will likely become the main stream in the near future and likely stay the main stream for the next 10 years for development. 

[Fatih19]

This video will answer your question and some.

[Fatih19]

1 minute ago, huilun02 said:

But now I have more questions

Who's looking at 7700k or 1800X in 2020?

And that video does not seem to mention anything about consoles

 

That comparison was done in early 2019. You can imagine the move to high core count will only accelerates as time goes plus the adoption of it by consoles.

 

[5x5]

9 minutes ago, Fatih19 said:

This video will answer your question and some.

This is ancient and not relevant in 2020

[5x5]

Just now, Fatih19 said:

 

That comparison was done in early 2019. You can imagine the move to high core count will only accelerates as time goes plus the adoption of it by consoles.

 

That's 2017 tech vs late 2016 tech. Zen 2 is 2020 Tech and Zen 3 is coming out soon (late 2020 Tech). The CPUs in the upcoming consoles are much more powerful than either 7700K or 1800X

[5x5]

18 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Is buying a quad-core with HT a mistake? Or a hexa-core with SMT for that matter? Since next generation of consoles will have 8, should gamers avoid quad and hexa cores or is the 8 core Zen 2s in the new console downclocked so much PC gamers should not even worry? 

To answer your question - 6 cores is the new mid-range, 8 cores is the new high end and 4 cores with SMT is the new minimum.

[Tristerin]

I hope so, I went with 2 1700's for this reason

[Letgomyleghoe]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

8 cores is the new high

If you’re  talking intel, sure, if you’re  talking amd I would say 12 lmao.

[5x5]

Just now, scuff gang said:

If you’re  talking intel, sure, if you’re  talking amd I would say 12 lmao.

12 would be ultra high end imo - Intel just don't exist there

[5x5]

35 minutes ago, SpicyTater said:

How much do you really need for strictly gaming though? Ive seen some BA gaming rigs that use a current gen i3 or ryzen 3/5 (4-6 core with HT/SMT) I can see wanting more for other uses, but if you are ONLY gaming, wouldnt these suffice? even paired with a 2080ti would there even be a bottleneck? 

 

edit: Not being sarcastic, legitimately wondering. I run an ancient FX6300 OC to 4 GHz with a 1060. so im a bit behind, lol hope to upgrade late this year.

2080 Tis get bottlenecked by most CPUs, even the 3600 is going to slightly limit it at 1080p - for a 2080 Ti at 1080 - 3700X and up

[Nena Trinity]

So conclusion is what here? OwO

[Nena Trinity]

Ok my conclusions is that the new XBOX has 8 cores at 3.8GHz or 3.6GHZ with SMT enabled? Ok that means a quad-core at 5GHz or hexa-core at 4GHz should be able to keep up? I personally think a hexa-core might be the safer bet here... Anyone here agree that the new Intel Core i5-10 series or R5-3k series will at the very least at 12 threads be a logical bet? There is no need to "future proof" by buying a octo-core this early? Last time 8-threads was smart since consoles had 8 but now?

[Mister Woof]

On 4/25/2020 at 7:10 AM, 5x5 said:

To answer your question - 6 cores is the new mid-range, 8 cores is the new high end and 4 cores with SMT is the new minimum.

This.

 

I'd say a powerful 6/12 chip will last several years before it becomes outdated, but I don't think it will become outdated because of lack of cores but just lack of speed.

 

When people say future proofing, they usually mean more resources to be able to play games longer. So in that respect I don't feel going to an 8, 10, 12, or 16 core chip is worthwhile.

 

However, I do believe in future proofing in terms of preparing for possible future changes in use case.

 

A 6/12 chip is perfectly fine for gaming, GPU streaming, general multitasking, etc. But if you find yourself in the future maybe wanting to dabble in rendering, video editing, etc., you may be able to "future proof" your purchase by moving to a higher core count chip.

[Dr0y]

It also depend on how developers will optimize the use of more core in the future.  Most likely future games will make good use of cores up to 8 cause of the new console ... will they be able to use more, probably as some I think already can use them, but only the future will tell for sure. 

 

When I upgrade in one or two years I will probably consider an 8/16 to be the bare minimum for my new system if I hope not to upgrade it again in the next three years after the upgrade.  That being said, a lot of things can happens within those two years and I'll see when I get there.  We are kind of in between stuff right now and the "future" is kind of close ... it's hard for people that need/wants to upgrade now to decide what to do and honestly I would probably don't know what to do either if I was planning an upgrade this year.  If my computer dies like now I think I would try to get a ryzen 5 3600x if I go brand new as it has a good value for the price and it will probably be enough for what I do with my pc right now. 

[Nena Trinity]

18 hours ago, Dr0y said:

It also depend on how developers will optimize the use of more core in the future.  Most likely future games will make good use of cores up to 8 cause of the new console ... will they be able to use more, probably as some I think already can use them, but only the future will tell for sure. 

 

When I upgrade in one or two years I will probably consider an 8/16 to be the bare minimum for my new system if I hope not to upgrade it again in the next three years after the upgrade.  That being said, a lot of things can happens within those two years and I'll see when I get there.  We are kind of in between stuff right now and the "future" is kind of close ... it's hard for people that need/wants to upgrade now to decide what to do and honestly I would probably don't know what to do either if I was planning an upgrade this year.  If my computer dies like now I think I would try to get a ryzen 5 3600x if I go brand new as it has a good value for the price and it will probably be enough for what I do with my pc right now. 

Yeah I think I will try a hexa core from 10th gen Intel or 4th gen AMD if they hit the passmark score of 20k multi core and 1600 or more in single core, why? Well I compared a Ryzen 2700x and a 3700x and combines their scores and cut it in half then its a bit above 20k so since the consoles have a lower clocked 3000 we can assume it at the very least will still beat the 2700x so a hexa core that hits on the middle is probably a safe bet.

[Nena Trinity]

19 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

This.

 

I'd say a powerful 6/12 chip will last several years before it becomes outdated, but I don't think it will become outdated because of lack of cores but just lack of speed.

 

When people say future proofing, they usually mean more resources to be able to play games longer. So in that respect I don't feel going to an 8, 10, 12, or 16 core chip is worthwhile.

 

However, I do believe in future proofing in terms of preparing for possible future changes in use case.

 

A 6/12 chip is perfectly fine for gaming, GPU streaming, general multitasking, etc. But if you find yourself in the future maybe wanting to dabble in rendering, video editing, etc., you may be able to "future proof" your purchase by moving to a higher core count chip.

My bet on a CPU with 20k in MC and 1600 in SC in passmark. UwU (hope 10th gen Intel or 4th gen AMDs hexas can hit that.)