Dream Build Advice Request

[Zagrosi]

Hi all,

 

I'm looking to get some advice in the planning stage of building my dream computer. I've put together a parts list and I feel like money could be saved on certain parts that I'm overlooking. My query to all of you is, am I overpaying for any of my parts? Are there cheaper alternatives with neglible performance impact? Ideally, I wouldn't want to compromise on the choice of CPU or GPU but I am open to all of your comments.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£679.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: NZXT KRAKEN Z63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£182.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.99)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£128.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£192.51 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card  (£1015.18 @ Amazon UK)
Case: RAIJINTEK PAEAN M MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£93.22 @ More Computers)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Titanium 700 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£149.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £2511.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 01:01 BST+0100

 

Thanks in advance!

[tank234]

you can save some money on the cooler and put a air cooler like the dark rock pro 4. Also you should go with a x570 motherboard as you have a pretty high end system. But these are just my suggestions  

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 minute ago, Zagrosi said:

I'm looking to get some advice in the planning stage of building my dream computer. I've put together a parts list and I feel like money could be saved on certain parts that I'm overlooking. My query to all of you is, am I overpaying for any of my parts? Are there cheaper alternatives with neglible performance impact? Ideally, I wouldn't want to compromise on the choice of CPU or GPU but I am open to all of your comments.

What is the primary use for this system? What monitor do you have? Cause the over spend is likely the CPU and storage. 100% without question you should be getting a better motherboard. You will fry the VRM's with that cheap B450 board an a 3950x, I would be surprised if it even booted.  

 

Anyways I would change pretty well everything. if you want an open case design I recommend:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	£394.25 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£101.49 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£176.92 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£151.98 @ Aria PC
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£101.48 @ CCL Computers
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	£1102.00 @ CCL Computers
Case	Thermaltake Core P3 ATX Mid Tower Case	£111.48 @ Scan.co.uk
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£109.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2249.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 01:13 BST+0100

 

[Zagrosi]

20 minutes ago, tank234 said:

you can save some money on the cooler and put a air cooler like the dark rock pro 4. Also you should go with a x570 motherboard as you have a pretty high end system. But these are just my suggestions  

 

19 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

yeah, OP, absolutley not that motherboard for a 3950X. If you're buying an expensive CPU, you don't want to cheap out on the motherboard.

 

16 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

What is the primary use for this system? What monitor do you have? Cause the over spend is likely the CPU and storage. 100% without question you should be getting a better motherboard. You will fry the VRM's with that cheap B450 board an a 3950x, I would be surprised if it even booted.  

 

Anyways I would change pretty well everything. if you want an open case design I recommend:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	£394.25 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£101.49 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£176.92 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£151.98 @ Aria PC
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£101.48 @ CCL Computers
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	£1102.00 @ CCL Computers
Case	Thermaltake Core P3 ATX Mid Tower Case	£111.48 @ Scan.co.uk
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£109.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2249.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 01:13 BST+0100

 

 

Thank you guys so much, I had no idea that motherboard was underkill.

 

In regards to the M.2 you replaced it with, I've heard that the cheaper ones (I.E. non-Samsung) are significantly slower to a point where they're essentially normal SSD drives. Do you guys know much in regards to this? As for the 3900X, isn't there a big difference in performance due to the reduced core-count?

 

In regards to purpose, I'm looking to stream, render and edit with ease at the upper end of the consumer range without entering workstation territory.

[Dravinian]

Are you building this yourself?

 

This is the machine that I have - same CPU 3900x, case Core P3, same ASUS Tuf gaming MB, except I went with the ROG Strix 2080 Ti, because it is an open case and the ROG comes with a silent mode bios alongside the performance mode so when not gaming can flip a switch and hopefully not have a lot of GPU noise coming from such an open case.

 

You want 3600 RAM with this as well, LTT did a video on it.

 

When I spoke to the builder about it, bearing in mind he didn't care one way or another, not like it cost him time or money, he told me that he had had stability problems running 32gb with the 3900x at 3600 and due to warranty issues and dealing with customers who were less techy he did not build the system with 32gb only 16gb, so that it was stable and those who knew how could add the 16gb themselves and he is not responsible for shipping out an unstable machine.

[Zagrosi]

28 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

Are you building this yourself?

 

This is the machine that I have - same CPU 3900x, case Core P3, same ASUS Tuf gaming MB, except I went with the ROG Strix 2080 Ti, because it is an open case and the ROG comes with a silent mode bios alongside the performance mode so when not gaming can flip a switch and hopefully not have a lot of GPU noise coming from such an open case.

 

You want 3600 RAM with this as well, LTT did a video on it.

 

When I spoke to the builder about it, bearing in mind he didn't care one way or another, not like it cost him time or money, he told me that he had had stability problems running 32gb with the 3900x at 3600 and due to warranty issues and dealing with customers who were less techy he did not build the system with 32gb only 16gb, so that it was stable and those who knew how could add the 16gb themselves and he is not responsible for shipping out an unstable machine.

That RAM thing is bad news, I was hoping to reuse RAM from my old build to save money but it's only 2400... Do you have a link to that video?

 

And is only 16GB is stable out of the box with this setup?

[Dravinian]

It is only what I was told by one guy...but he does build PCs for a living so has more experience than I do, my intention is to put another 16gb in it and see if I can get it stable.

 

Also bear in mind, from his perspective, he only needs 1 in 5 or even 1 in 10 to be unstable and this causes him massive problems.

 

 

[DailyProcrastinator]

3 hours ago, Zagrosi said:

Thank you guys so much, I had no idea that motherboard was underkill.

 

In regards to the M.2 you replaced it with, I've heard that the cheaper ones (I.E. non-Samsung) are significantly slower to a point where they're essentially normal SSD drives. Do you guys know much in regards to this? As for the 3900X, isn't there a big difference in performance due to the reduced core-count?

 

In regards to purpose, I'm looking to stream, render and edit with ease at the upper end of the consumer range without entering workstation territory.

For a 3900x or 3950x you should be going high a good X570 or X470 motherboard. 

 

The P1 still has DRAM cache I think that is what you are likely referring too. But 90% of the time you will not notice a difference from an SSD to NVME drive.

 

 

I'm sure the 38900x is going to be more than enough, but if you are set on the 3950x You can add it to the parts I sleeted and be at the same point price wise as you were initially.