New build plan seeking overview

[Beef Boss]

Hi, I started to plan a new PC I'd like to build thats in my budget. I know the build doesnt include any peripherals but I will purchase parts as money comes... I was going for like an all black build, overclocking would be cool. I was looking for use of an eight core processor for gaming, CAD, editing, folding when I'm away, and virtual machines... I'm wondering on the compatibility of the cpu cooler with ram, having an eight core processor I was thinking I need a bigger cooler because some people state that the 3600 at full tdp is roasting at 75c... Kinda threw this together today so. I probably be using at least two screens. Any suggestions?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.14 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$75.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$259.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$86.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ B&H
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$409.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1455.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-23 23:32 EDT-0400

 

[LIGISTX]

8 minutes ago, Beef Boss said:

Hi, I started to plan a new PC I'd like to build thats in my budget. I know the build doesnt include any peripherals but I will purchase parts as money comes... I was going for like an all black build, overclocking would be cool. I was looking for use of an eight core processor for gaming, CAD, editing, folding when I'm away, and virtual machines... I'm wondering on the compatibility of the cpu cooler with ram, having an eight core processor I was thinking I need a bigger cooler because some people state that the 3600 at full tdp is roasting at 75c... Kinda threw this together today so. I probably be using at least two screens. Any suggestions?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.14 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$75.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$259.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$86.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ B&H
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$409.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1455.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-23 23:32 EDT-0400

 

I like the build, but why such an expensive mobo? You could spend about 100 less and take that 100 and get a better GPU... That mobo is very overkill. Nothing wrong with it, but, thats a lot of money for a mobo.

[Slufa111]

I actually really like it but here is what I would do.

 

Switch the cooler for a NZXT X52 or something similar

Downgrade the mobo to the MSI x570 MPG Gaming Edge Wifi

 

The price difference will give you better temps and available space in your case.

 

GPU is best bang for the buck IMO based on reviews and price vs performance.

  

[Beef Boss]

@LIGISTX

Hi there, any word on the 2070? Dropping the price in motherboard like you guys suggested added about a hundred bucks for other things. I was looking at the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card it has a slightly higher base clock than others though its apparently a little noisy. I would like to get a full size card, and this one comes in at around 500 dollars. Thank you.

[Guest]

You should avoid MSI X570 boards altogether, unless going for the X570 Unify or above.

 

An Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo will easily cope with a 3700X.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.14 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($47.22 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($136.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($409.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.99 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $1352.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 10:52 EDT-0400

[LIGISTX]

1 hour ago, Beef Boss said:

@LIGISTX

Hi there, any word on the 2070? Dropping the price in motherboard like you guys suggested added about a hundred bucks for other things. I was looking at the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card it has a slightly higher base clock than others though its apparently a little noisy. I would like to get a full size card, and this one comes in at around 500 dollars. Thank you.

2070 super is a GREAT card! And that one is a good option.

[dizmo]

Don't get MSI X570 motherboards. They're horrible.

Other than that the build looks fine.

Personally I wouldn't get an AMD card due to the fact they constantly have issues with drivers, and you could easily do with a 650w PSU, but those are more personal than requirements.

14 hours ago, Slufa111 said:

I actually really like it but here is what I would do.

 

Switch the cooler for a NZXT X52 or something similar

Downgrade the mobo to the MSI x570 MPG Gaming Edge Wifi

 

The price difference will give you better temps and available space in your case.

 

GPU is best bang for the buck IMO based on reviews and price vs performance.

  

Uhhhh no. 140mm AIOs are borderline useless, and MSI X570 motherboards are trash.

[Slufa111]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

Don't get MSI X570 motherboards. They're horrible.

Other than that the build looks fine.

Personally I wouldn't get an AMD card due to the fact they constantly have issues with drivers, and you could easily do with a 650w PSU, but those are more personal than requirements.

Uhhhh no. 140mm AIOs are borderline useless, and MSI X570 motherboards are trash.

 

Driver issues have been fixed.

 

You stating that X570 motherboards are trash and AIO are useless leads me to believe you have substantiating evidence to back your claim.

 

 

[dizmo]

25 minutes ago, Slufa111 said:

 

Driver issues have been fixed.

 

You stating that X570 motherboards are trash and AIO are useless leads me to believe you have substantiating evidence to back your claim.

Doesn't matter if they're fixed, it's been an issue with AMD for many, many years. 

 

140mm AIOs are often worse then even middle of the road air coolers, yet take up more space and have many more points of potential failure. 

 

Hardware Unboxed has gone into depth on why MSI X570 boards are trash. 

[Slufa111]

17 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Doesn't matter if they're fixed, it's been an issue with AMD for many, many years. 

 

140mm AIOs are often worse then even middle of the road air coolers, yet take up more space and have many more points of potential failure. 

 

has gone into depth on why MSI X570 boards are trash. 

I'm slightly confused as to why you're referencing 140mm AIO. The X52 is a 240mm AIO which many recommend over the 140mm anyways. 

 

If you stating that one has the advantage of the other, yes, AIO may not always be the best option when considering price vs cooling performance.

 

 

[Beef Boss]

Nvm I found one

[dizmo]

18 hours ago, Beef Boss said:

@dizmo

Could you recommend a motherboard that would work good with a 3700x? Id kinda like to stick with an AMD CPU. I did see the Asus someone posted, but I'm not a fan of the tacky "tuff gaming"

Gigabyte's X570 Ultra board is nice.