Help Building a Mid-Hgh PC

[Aetherhugo]

Hi, first time in the forum!.

 

in the beggining of my university career i  use my laptop (an Acer aspire E15[CPU: AMD dual core A9-9410, GPU: Radeon R5,Ram: 8GB]) it is decent for doing web browsing, documents, a little of video editing and graphical desing.

 

But now i will start using after effects(and more further in time 3d animation/render),so i will need a more powerfull PC.

what kind of specs i will need to do that in a good way?(one that dosent involve pawn my kidneys)

Budget: Arround 500 USA Dollars (more or less)

PD: if anyone is from mexico, please tell me where i can find those PC parts at relative good price

[Viper9]

What's your budget?

[Aetherhugo]

3 minutes ago, Viper9 said:

What's your budget?

500 dlls.....-ish(a little more or little less), the problem its that i am not the one who will spend the money(my father will do)

thats why i say mid-high pc

[OnionRings]

3 minutes ago, Viper9 said:

What's your budget?

This is question #1. We can't make you a list without a budget as we might make a list thats too expensive for you, or if your budget is massive we might under do it.

 

Follow up question is what currency? I'm being a bit retarded here but does mexico have its own currency? If so, we need to keep that in mind.

 

But to answer your question on what king of specs, for editing you really want a nice strong CPU and a good bit of ram, probably 16GB to start, with most editors using 32GB for high end editing. Also, depending on what editing program you use, some programs can benefit from a good graphics card too. I believe one of adobes programs takes advantage of CUDA cores on NVIDIA cards.

[OnionRings]

So. I don't know if I'm doing this right, but I went on pc part picker and switched the country to mexico, and the cheapest CPU is like 2000 of your currency...? So if I'm doing this correctly, and your budget is 500, then this isn't possible?

 

Please somebody correct me if I'm doing this wrong, this seems off.

 

https://mx.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#sort=price&page=1

[Fasauceome]

$500 doesn't build a mid range PC by most standards, but there's also nothing bad about a proper low end PC

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Athlon 3000G 3.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor	$2129.68 @ Newegg Mexico
Motherboard	ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$3385.34 @ Newegg Mexico
Memory	Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$2476.49 @ Newegg Mexico
Storage	HP EX900 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$1825.98 @ Newegg Mexico
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card	$4119.51 @ Newegg Mexico
Case	Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$2348.48 @ Newegg Mexico
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$2498.75 @ Newegg Mexico
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$18784.23
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-18 21:13 EST-0500

 

This is a very respectable PC, the shipping cost seems to put it outside of the budget by quite a lot but you should see if those shipping costs are accurate in pcpartpicker's side.

[Aetherhugo]

4 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

This is question #1. We can't make you a list without a budget as we might make a list thats too expensive for you, or if your budget is massive we might under do it.

 

Follow up question is what currency? I'm being a bit retarded here but does mexico have its own currency? If so, we need to keep that in mind.

 

But to answer your question on what king of specs, for editing you really want a nice strong CPU and a good bit of ram, probably 16GB to start, with most editors using 32GB for high end editing. Also, depending on what editing program you use, some programs can benefit from a good graphics card too. I believe one of adobes programs takes advantage of CUDA cores on NVIDIA cards.

1# as i replied to viper arround 500 USA dlls(more or less)

2# yes mexico has its own currency(MXN mexican pesos), but i actually live in the border with USA so no problem handling USA dlls ()

 

[OnionRings]

1 minute ago, Aetherhugo said:

1# as i replied to viper arround 500 dlls(more or less)

2# yes mexico has its own currency(MXN mexican pesos), but i actually live in the border with USA so no problem handling USA dlls

 

dlls is that an abbreviation for dollars or something else?

[Aetherhugo]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

$500 doesn't build a mid range PC by most standards, but there's also nothing bad about a proper low end PC

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Athlon 3000G 3.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor	$2129.68 @ Newegg Mexico
Motherboard	ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$3385.34 @ Newegg Mexico
Memory	Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$2476.49 @ Newegg Mexico
Storage	HP EX900 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$1825.98 @ Newegg Mexico
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card	$4119.51 @ Newegg Mexico
Case	Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$2348.48 @ Newegg Mexico
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$2498.75 @ Newegg Mexico
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$18784.23
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-18 21:13 EST-0500

 

This is a very respectable PC, the shipping cost seems to put it outside of the budget by quite a lot but you should see if those shipping costs are accurate in pcpartpicker's side.

no problem as i said im not the one spending the money on the pc, in the case of a mid thier pc.

what would you suggest in that case?

[Aetherhugo]

2 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

dlls is that an abbreviation for dollars or something else?

yes USA Dollars

[OnionRings]

Just now, Aetherhugo said:

yes USA Dollars

Oooh! Ok then. That makes more sense, because when I was searching based on MXN, the CPU alone was like 2k so I was like how the hell is he gonna buy a PC for 500 MXN lol!

[Aetherhugo]

Just now, OnionRings said:

Oooh! Ok then. That makes more sense, because when I was searching based on MXN, the CPU alone was like 2k so I was like how the hell is he gonna buy a PC for 500 MXN lol!

yeah that would be insane

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Aetherhugo said:

no problem as i said im not the one spending the money on the pc

I'll try to spare your dad the extra expense, if possible. 

 

3 minutes ago, Aetherhugo said:

what would you suggest in that case?

Do you plan on expanding the budget? Or buying from the United States?

[Aetherhugo]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Do you plan on expanding the budget? Or buying from the United States?

50/50

in the case of 800 USA dollars?

i asked my father about the budget, he told me 2 things,

1st the pc will need to do what i need

2nd he will not buy all the pieces in a single buy(1 week the motherboard, in a month the GPU...etc)

he told me "a cpu of 12 cores here (mexico) its affordable, from there upwards it is not affordable"

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Aetherhugo said:

a cpu of 12 cores here (mexico) its affordable

I did recommend a 2 core CPU since it seems to be a bit out of the budget to get 12.

 

1 minute ago, Aetherhugo said:

2nd he will not buy all the pieces in a single buy(1 week the motherboard, in a month the GPU...etc)

You could certainly buy the graphics card last, since the CPU has integrated graphics. They're not super powerful but the PC will be usable.

[OnionRings]

2 minutes ago, Aetherhugo said:

50/50

in the case of 800 USA dollars?

i asked my father about the budget, he told me 2 things,

1st the pc will need to do what i need

2nd he will not buy all the pieces in a single buy(1 week the motherboard, in a month the GPU...etc)

he told me "a cpu of 12 cores here (mexico) its affordable, from there upwards it is not affordable"

800 is a lot more lenient for budget, if you can convince him to do 800, even if its over a few months, you'll get a much better rig.

[Aetherhugo]

 

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

I did recommend a 2 core CPU since it seems to be a bit out of the budget to get 12.

yeah, the budget number its someting i put because i dont even know how much my father its gonna put (but i also dont wanna melt my fathers wallet)

[OnionRings]

4 minutes ago, Aetherhugo said:

 

yeah, the budget number its someting i put because i dont even know how much my father its gonna put (but i also dont wanna melt my fathers wallet)

Melt it good!

 

Judging by your comment of " it needs to do what you need " I am guessing he wants you to have a good rig that can do what you need, even if it means chunking a bit more out. I'm working on a list that should be around 800 that should be a great starting edit rig, that you can always upgrade later.

[Aetherhugo]

1 minute ago, OnionRings said:

Melt it good!

XD, i think my father has do a lot for me, to only i bring and melt his wallet

 

2 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

I'm working on a list that should be around 800 that should be a great starting edit rig

yeah, as i said i will work with special effects(Adobe after efects) and more in the future in my career 3d modeling/render

4 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

that you can always upgrade later

thats a great plus!

[OnionRings]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ B&H
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$82.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card	$233.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$816.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$806.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-18 22:48 EDT-0400

This is what I was thinking so far. I'm not the best at this so I imagine somebody will come along and change some stuff but here is my reasoning on what I picked.

CPU - The ryzen 5 3600 is by far the best bang for buck right now, you'll hear it from many youtubers everywhere giving it high praises. 6 cores, 12 threads, all at a good clock speed, with the option to overclock for more free performance.

 

CPU cooler - I didn't put one on yet mostly cus I forgot but also because this is one of the things you can upgrade later. The stock cooler will keep it from exploding and once you desire to overclock for more juice, just buy a better cooler and slap it on.
 

Motherboard - One of the best you can buy for the price right now that isn't overkill. VRM cooling, overclock support, 4 dimm slots, lots of headers, M.2 slot, all the goodies!

 

RAM - Ryzen loves fast ram, and editing loves alot of ram. So 16GB of 3600. Very good priced kit, bought one myself.

 

Storage - I probably got storage wrong so I expect somebody to change this but I figured you'd want an NVME to take advantage of your motherboards NVME slot. But I probably should have found a better one. 500 GB for 100$ is probably not the best.

 

GPU - I figured with a lower budget start small. This card has pretty good performance for the price.

 

Case - Another item that could probably be changed out. I chose it though because of the mesh front, lots of airflow so when you start overclocking you'll get lots of nice fresh air in the front to your CPU.

 

Anybody feel free to edit!

 

Edit : Didn't add PSU right now, they are over inflated because of the virus. Have your dad buy the PSU as one of the last parts once china catches up on manufacturing and prices return to normal.

 

 

[Viper9]

You can get a cheaper case if you want, but a build similar to this one would be a good choice.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.15 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card  ($239.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.19 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.87 @ Newegg) 
Total: $875.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-18 23:26 EDT-0400

[Aetherhugo]

24 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ B&H
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$82.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card	$233.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$816.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$806.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-18 22:48 EDT-0400

This is what I was thinking so far. I'm not the best at this so I imagine somebody will come along and change some stuff but here is my reasoning on what I picked.

CPU - The ryzen 5 3600 is by far the best bang for buck right now, you'll hear it from many youtubers everywhere giving it high praises. 6 cores, 12 threads, all at a good clock speed, with the option to overclock for more free performance.

 

CPU cooler - I didn't put one on yet mostly cus I forgot but also because this is one of the things you can upgrade later. The stock cooler will keep it from exploding and once you desire to overclock for more juice, just buy a better cooler and slap it on.
 

Motherboard - One of the best you can buy for the price right now that isn't overkill. VRM cooling, overclock support, 4 dimm slots, lots of headers, M.2 slot, all the goodies!

 

RAM - Ryzen loves fast ram, and editing loves alot of ram. So 16GB of 3600. Very good priced kit, bought one myself.

 

Storage - I probably got storage wrong so I expect somebody to change this but I figured you'd want an NVME to take advantage of your motherboards NVME slot. But I probably should have found a better one. 500 GB for 100$ is probably not the best.

 

GPU - I figured with a lower budget start small. This card has pretty good performance for the price.

 

Case - Another item that could probably be changed out. I chose it though because of the mesh front, lots of airflow so when you start overclocking you'll get lots of nice fresh air in the front to your CPU.

 

Anybody feel free to edit!

 

Edit : Didn't add PSU right now, they are over inflated because of the virus. Have your dad buy the PSU as one of the last parts once china catches up on manufacturing and prices return to normal.

 

 

Hi update here, i showed your list to my father and he says quote"6 cores? are you really sure?"

and he start searching for processor in amazon mexico and he showed me AMD RYZEN9 3900x

and he says "this one"

with this decision in mind i think i screw your list a little,

 

can you adapt the list with this in mind?,(if my father decides to go over the top, i will go along as hell)

 

[OnionRings]

6 hours ago, Aetherhugo said:

Hi update here, i showed your list to my father and he says quote"6 cores? are you really sure?"

and he start searching for processor in amazon mexico and he showed me AMD RYZEN9 3900x

and he says "this one"

with this decision in mind i think i screw your list a little,

 

can you adapt the list with this in mind?,(if my father decides to go over the top, i will go along as hell)

 

I mean shit, if your pops wants to buy you such an expensive processor, so be it. But its like 3x the price.

[OnionRings]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$434.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.46 @ B&H
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$82.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$77.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$50.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$409.99 @ B&H
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1432.39
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-19 06:25 EDT-0400

 Alright how about this? Much more expensive but he doesn't seem to be too worried about price.

 

Put the 3900x on, a new motherboard and cooler to match, changed the SSD, added 2TB HDD for mass storing of your edits and games, changed the GPU to something more beefy so you can game if you want.

 

I'd recommend you pick the case yourself, do some browsing, find one you like. Outside of thermals, cases are usually personal choices. Once you pick a case, we can add some fans on here to help cool that monster of a CPU.

[Viper9]

11 hours ago, Aetherhugo said:

Hi update here, i showed your list to my father and he says quote"6 cores? are you really sure?"

and he start searching for processor in amazon mexico and he showed me AMD RYZEN9 3900x

and he says "this one"

with this decision in mind i think i screw your list a little,

 

can you adapt the list with this in mind?,(if my father decides to go over the top, i will go along as hell)

 

Since it seems like your father doesn't mind spending more money for a "workstation" type of PC. This build would be good for 3D rendering, photo/video editing and gaming:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($434.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($509.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1763.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-19 11:23 EDT-0400