Feedback about components appreciated

[fkrauthan]

I am currently thinking about upgrading (for the most part replacing tons of components) and was thinking about having an end result looking a bit like this: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CxpRq3 to have a future proof PC and potentially upgrade the graphics card at a later stage with a more powerful one.

 

The components on that list that are going to be new are:

• CPU
• CPU Cooler
• Motherboard
• RAM
• M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (as my new boot drive)
• Power Supply

My goal is to have a future proof PC that at the same time uses quiet components when ever possible (one of the reasons why I am thinking about getting a separate CPU cooler instead of using the stock one). Do you guys think the components should work well together or did I overlook something here? And has anyone experience with the CPU Cooler and the Picked Power Supply in regards of noise development or are there better options out without doubling the price?

[Slottr]

You're spending way too much on your motherboard, power supply and storage.

 

What do you use this pc for? Do you even need a 3900x?

[Entropy.]

14 minutes ago, fkrauthan said:

I am currently thinking about upgrading (for the most part replacing tons of components) and was thinking about having an end result looking a bit like this: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CxpRq3 to have a future proof PC and potentially upgrade the graphics card at a later stage with a more powerful one.

 

The components on that list that are going to be new are:

• CPU
• CPU Cooler
• Motherboard
• RAM
• M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (as my new boot drive)
• Power Supply

My goal is to have a future proof PC that at the same time uses quiet components when ever possible (one of the reasons why I am thinking about getting a separate CPU cooler instead of using the stock one). Do you guys think the components should work well together or did I overlook something here? And has anyone experience with the CPU Cooler and the Picked Power Supply in regards of noise development or are there better options out without doubling the price?

Bro. Your 1tb drive is more than the 2 tb. Make sure to check for the best prices. Please, Please, PLEASE  get a better cpu cooler than the hyper 212 evo. You'd practically be better off using the stock wraith cooler. Get a beefy nocuta or similar, or a 240mm+ AIO cooler to keep you cpu nice and chilly. Instead of 2*18 gb of ram, go for 4*8 for that beautiful quad-channel memory. The motherboard is okay... Nothing too special, except for it's price. Terrible. But the 3900x (Do you really even need it) and the 1060 will create a pretty large bottleneck, and most AAA games, or gpu-intensive programs can easily bring a 1060 to it's knees. The PSU is okay but, really go for maybe a 750 watt or even a 650 watt, You'll be fine, and get a cheaper one. Buy a new cases, preferably one suitable for a 3900x,  (GOOD AIRFLOW) and get some quiet fans.

[ShinRamen]

11 minutes ago, fkrauthan said:

My goal is to have a future proof PC that at the same time uses quiet components when ever possible (one of the reasons why I am thinking about getting a separate CPU cooler instead of using the stock one). Do you guys think the components should work well together or did I overlook something here? And has anyone experience with the CPU Cooler and the Picked Power Supply in regards of noise development or are there better options out without doubling the price?

 

Wow, what will you be actually using that PC for? Gaming? Productivity (if so: which programs, to what extent?)?

You might not even need a 3900X, let alone 32GB of Ram. You are definitely paying A LOT for that motherboard and those drives. For that money you could get a killer machine including a new GPU.

[PotatoDave]

What do you plan on doing with the computer?  A 3900X is way beefy unless you're doing some real heavy stuff.  Spending $1,000 on a CPU/motherboard combo probably goes beyond "enthusiast" level PC's and kind of breaks into high-end desktop (HEDT) or professional workstation territory.  If all you want is something that will last 3-4 years you don't need to spend that much money.

[fkrauthan]

I have four usecases for this PC:

1. Playing around with some 3D work with Blender
2. Running some VM machines and IDEs (Intellij etc) for development
3. Playing games (primary games I play at the moment include...)
   1. The Witcher 3 - Wild Hunt
   2. Red Dead Redemption 2
   3. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
   4. X-Plane 11 (and potentially the new Flight Simulator when it comes out)
4. Playing some VR Games (even though I assume the 1060 is the primary bottleneck for that).

Therefor the 32GB RAM are not that much of a waste in my case. The idea is to have some hardware that might be a bit oversized at the moment but is not going to be outdated 2 to 3 years down the road (and I know that there is a high chance that it still happens or stuff breaks).

 

@InnerBeast Gaming Re the hard-drive: The two SATA SSDs I already own. Therefore the price on them are not relevant. Only the M.2 Hard Drive would be new. And why do you think the current case would not be a good fit (again that case I already have and therefore would not need to buy). It is a pretty big Tower Case with plenty of space (and good noise cancellation).

[mariushm]

32gb is fine.

the cooler isn't, not worth buying it. get 240mm or bigger water cooler or something in the 50-60$ otherwise stay with supplied cooler.

really overboard on the motherboard, not worth the money. A 100$ cheaper motherboard will be equally good.

 

For example see the relatively new msi unify : https://www.newegg.ca/msi-meg-x570-unify/p/N82E16813144273

 

psu is fine.. debatable that you need 850w ... probably 650w will be plenty but if you really want to be future proof for 16core cpu and 2080 super kind of builds 750w is enough

high wattage psus will be less efficient at very low loads (your machine will use less than 100w when idle in windows, watching youtube etc)

 

[fkrauthan]

@mariushm my concern with the MSI would be that currently I already use 8 USB ports on the back and it seems like that one only has 7 ports.

 

Do you guys think that maybe even my super old Power Supply a Corsair CX Series CX500M 500W might work for this build and I can just reuse that one?

[mariushm]

Board has 8... one is usb type-c.

 

There are usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 headers on the motherboard, you can always buy a bracket and use them

examples:

Amazon.com: StarTech.com 4 Port USB A Female Slot Plate Adapter - USB panel - 4 pin USB Type A (F) (USBPLATE4): Electronics

Amazon.com: RIITOP 2 Ports USB 3.0 Female Back Panel to MB 20pin Header Connector Cable Adapter with PCI Slot Plate Bracket 1.5ft: Computers & Accessories

 

Alternatively, you can always get a small basic simple usb hub for a few of your usb devices that don't need the super high bandwidth

Here's an example of a sleek non-intrusive hub you can hide behind pc and it's from a reputable brand : https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Extended-MacBook-Surface-Notebook/dp/B07L32B9C2/

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-4-Port-Macbook-Surface-Notebook/dp/B00XMD7KPU/

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, you can reuse your power supply.  There's 2 eps (8pin) connectors for cpu, but only only 1 connector must be populated, and 2nd one is not required, but it wouldn't hurt. So if your psu has only 1 eps cable, it will still work

 

[fkrauthan]

Ok given that some people said that the components might be overkill I spec'ed out a system with a AMD Ryzen 5 3600: 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$229.75 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Pure Rock 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$49.99 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$318.50 @ Vuugo
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$209.50 @ Vuugo
Storage	Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$404.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$259.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$363.95 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card
Case	Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Amazon Canada
Optical Drive	LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1966.66
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-15 23:38 EDT-0400

Would this be a better setup given my use-cases listed above?

 

[fkrauthan]

Otherwise I also did update the Ryzen 9 Build with Noctua fan, a slightly cheaper Motherboard and a smaller Power supply as recommended:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$610.75 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$319.00 @ Canada Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$209.50 @ Vuugo
Storage	Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$404.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$259.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$363.95 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card
Case	Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Amazon Canada
Optical Drive	LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2398.12
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-15 23:55 EDT-0400

 

[mariushm]

That particular msi motherboard (the carbon) is kinda messed up, weak on the vrm and not so great cooling so it's not recommended. The asus board in your previous post is much better when it comes to vrm and ability to overclock and so on. The carbon is trading performance to add features (ex wifi) and fancy design