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Are there any good b450 mITX boards around the price of the MSI Tomahawk MAX?
Here are the parts I want to use in it:
AMD Ryzen 3700X
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB or G.Skill Trident Z Neo Series RGB 16GB

EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO (or other 2060 near $300 USD)
Crucial P1 1TB SSD or Sabrent Rocket 1TB

 

I already had a Fractal Node 304 (I think) and I love the size and compactness of it. Otherwise I will go with the Tomahawk MAX and a Phantex P300 (I think this is an ok case?) I want to upgrade from the system listed below.

System

  • CPU
    Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600
  • Motherboard
    some piece of trash / other piece of garbage
  • RAM
    8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff
  • GPU
    none. / XFX R9-280X
  • Case
    some Dell thing / another HP case
  • Storage
    500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in)
  • PSU
    some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone
  • Cooling
    intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock
  • Keyboard
    Asus Cerberus
  • Mouse
    Logitech G300s
  • Sound
    Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12
  • Operating System
    Windows 10, wInDOwS 10
  • Laptop
    Surface Pro the Fourth
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Asrock's Fatality board and MSI's Gaming Plus board.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Somewhat off topic on this post but is CL 18 memory too slow, or will it do fine? I know that CL 16 is the standard, but it seems much more expensive.

System

  • CPU
    Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600
  • Motherboard
    some piece of trash / other piece of garbage
  • RAM
    8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff
  • GPU
    none. / XFX R9-280X
  • Case
    some Dell thing / another HP case
  • Storage
    500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in)
  • PSU
    some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone
  • Cooling
    intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock
  • Keyboard
    Asus Cerberus
  • Mouse
    Logitech G300s
  • Sound
    Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12
  • Operating System
    Windows 10, wInDOwS 10
  • Laptop
    Surface Pro the Fourth
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13 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Asrock's Fatality board and MSI's Gaming Plus board.

How do the features compare to the Tomahawk MAX? Are the VRMs good enough for a decent overclock, and is the maximum ram speeds being 3466 a limitation? I also saw a Gigabyte board for the same price, is this any good? For a mITX Ryzen 3000 system, am I better off saving for a X570 mITX or using the MAX?

System

  • CPU
    Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600
  • Motherboard
    some piece of trash / other piece of garbage
  • RAM
    8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff
  • GPU
    none. / XFX R9-280X
  • Case
    some Dell thing / another HP case
  • Storage
    500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in)
  • PSU
    some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone
  • Cooling
    intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock
  • Keyboard
    Asus Cerberus
  • Mouse
    Logitech G300s
  • Sound
    Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12
  • Operating System
    Windows 10, wInDOwS 10
  • Laptop
    Surface Pro the Fourth
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1 hour ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

How do the features compare to the Tomahawk MAX?

You can look that up in their sites, they disclose these things. Just note that ITX boards cannot compete with ATX boards (that arent the cheap ones) here due to low board space.

 

1 hour ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

Are the VRMs good enough for a decent overclock

for 6 core and 8 core yes, not that you can oc much if at all on Zen 2

 

2 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

and is the maximum ram speeds being 3466 a limitation?

I dont think they tested any 3rd gen CPU before giving that number

 

2 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

I also saw a Gigabyte board for the same price, is this any good?

X570 one or B450 one? Because the X570 one is great, the B450 one is terrible

 

2 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

For a mITX Ryzen 3000 system, am I better off saving for a X570 mITX or using the MAX?

the Max is not an ITX board so it can't compare at all

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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18 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 one or B450 one? Because the X570 one is great, the B450 one is terrible

 

the Max is not an ITX board so it can't compare at all

I meant in general for the mITX boards, is X570 better?
Also, I was asking if I should suck up the size of the MAX for more features.
Great info though, thanks.

System

  • CPU
    Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600
  • Motherboard
    some piece of trash / other piece of garbage
  • RAM
    8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff
  • GPU
    none. / XFX R9-280X
  • Case
    some Dell thing / another HP case
  • Storage
    500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in)
  • PSU
    some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone
  • Cooling
    intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock
  • Keyboard
    Asus Cerberus
  • Mouse
    Logitech G300s
  • Sound
    Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12
  • Operating System
    Windows 10, wInDOwS 10
  • Laptop
    Surface Pro the Fourth
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25 minutes ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

I meant in general for the mITX boards, is X570 better?
Also, I was asking if I should suck up the size of the MAX for more features.
Great info though, thanks.

In general X570 ITX boards are better performing, but worse priced (price to performance as well)

Unless you need them, no. Max board comes with BIOS preflashed for 3rd gen and BIOS flashback, i.e. BIOS flashing without compatible CPU (so does the standard Tomahawk) while the B450 ITX boards dont.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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