3900x vs 9900K for gaming

[t-virus]

1 minute ago, t-virus said:

you said  that  you have the  3700x and  2070 super//

 

the  3700x  is better in 1440p  against  9700 and  9900k?/

 

also  tell me something  have  you played the assaseen greed odysey??  

 

also  you  said  that   you  won't see any improvement really in gaming with the 3700x.

 

what  cpu you  had in  the past?

[CB_J_IRacing]

4 minutes ago, t-virus said:

you said  that  you have the  3700x and  2070 super//

 

the  3700x  is better in 1440p  against  9700 and  9900k?/

 

also  tell me something  have  you played the assaseen greed odysey??  

No but I play ACC which uses unreal engine 4 and is an extremely demanding physics engine/game which prefers Core and thread count

[BlackManINC]

20 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

The 3900X is not so good for gaming, in terms of value. A ryzen 7 3700X would deliver the same experience, and you'd get the same upgrade path going forward.

 

@t-virus

 

Yeah, if you are buying a new CPU primarily for gaming, I wouldn't spend another $100 more on a Ryzen 9 3900X since the R7 3700X will give you mostly the same performance across the board. I wouldn't recommend the I9-9900K either for the simple fact that you are still getting the same performance with the 3900X, and even the 3700X does a damn good job competing with it. 

 

Ryzen 7 3700x vs Ryzen 9 3900x Test in 9 Games:

 

Ryzen 7 3700X vs i9 9900K Test in 10 Games:

 

[CB_J_IRacing]

7 minutes ago, t-virus said:

you said  that  you have the  3700x and  2070 super//

 

the  3700x  is better in 1440p  against  9700 and  9900k?/

 

also  tell me something  have  you played the assaseen greed odysey??  

But as far as better in 1440p I know that the Gap starts to prefer Ryzen with higher resolution. Their probably the same at 1440p

[BlackManINC]

3 minutes ago, CB_J_IRacing said:

But as far as better in 1440p I know that the Gap starts to prefer Ryzen with higher resolution. Their probably the same at 1440p

The gap always closes considerably when increasing the resolution beyond 1080P. The gap closes to such an extent that it makes spending another 100-200 bucks more on an R9 3900X or I9-9900K mainly to play a video game a huge waste of money. Its the reason why I consider 4K gaming highly overrated, because none of these CPU's will guarantee a steady 60 FPS on ultra settings even with an RTX 2080TI. 

[BlackManINC]

@t-virus   @CB_J_IRacing

 

Here are some benchmarks at 1440P/2160P resolutions proving my point. I think you'll be just fine with a Ryzen 7 3700X if you are gaming at 1440P and beyond, don't waste your money.

 

Ryzen 7 3700X vs I9 9900K | Tested 14 Games:

 

 

Ryzen 7 3700X vs Ryzen 9 3900X vs Ryzen 9 3950X | Tested 12 Games |:

 

[CB_J_IRacing]

11 minutes ago, BlackManINC said:

The gap always closes considerably when increasing the resolution beyond 1080P. The gap closes to such an extent that it makes spending another 100-200 bucks more on an R9 3900X or I9-9900K mainly to play a video game a huge waste of money. Its the reason why I consider 4K gaming highly overrated, because none of these CPU's will guarantee a steady 60 FPS on ultra settings even with an RTX 2080TI. 

Yea definitely. I run 2560x1080 on a curved ultrawide but no HDR or 4k. Need 120fps+ for sim racing. I'm not even really a fan of HDR or 4k. 

[BlackManINC]

8 minutes ago, CB_J_IRacing said:

Yea definitely. I run 2560x1080 on a curved ultrawide but no HDR or 4k. Need 120fps+ plus sim racing. I'm not even really a fan of HDR or 4k. 

Yeah 4K gaming is an absolute freaking joke, and this benchmark below proves it. I would NOT spend my money on these "high end" CPU's/GPU's to game at 1440P or 2160P. The performance gain at those resolutions might as well be considered null and void. 

 

Red Dead Redemption 2 : RTX 2080 Ti + i9 9900k in 4K:

 

.....These companies got me all the way fucked up if they think I'm spending a months worth of rent and groceries on a GPU that can't even achieve 60 FPS on ultra settings, its a pure rip off. 

 

[CB_J_IRacing]

1 minute ago, BlackManINC said:

Yeah 4K gaming is an absolute freaking joke, and this benchmark below proves it. I would NOT spend my money on these "high end" CPU's/GPU's to game at 1440P or 2160P. The performance gain at those resolutions might as well be considered null and void. 

 

Red Dead Redemption 2 : RTX 2080 Ti + i9 9900k in 4K:

 

.....These companies got me all fucked up if they think I'm spending a months worth of rent and groceries on a GPU that can't even achieve 60 FPS on ultra settings, its a pure rip off. 

 

It really is. If someone was sitting in my rig driving ACC and I TOLD them it was 4k HDR they would talk about how amazing it looks lol

[CB_J_IRacing]

28 minutes ago, t-virus said:

 

also  you  said  that   you  won't see any improvement really in gaming with the 3700x.

 

what  cpu you  had in  the past?

Sorry I didn't see this, I have the 3700x right now and have the 3900x on the way in shipping, but gaming alone I won't see a difference. Only will help while I have multiple live applications running and gaming at the same time

[t-virus]

15 minutes ago, BlackManINC said:

Yeah 4K gaming is an absolute freaking joke, and this benchmark below proves it. I would NOT spend my money on these "high end" CPU's/GPU's to game at 1440P or 2160P. The performance gain at those resolutions might as well be considered null and void. 

 

Red Dead Redemption 2 : RTX 2080 Ti + i9 9900k in 4K:

 

.....These companies got me all the way fucked up if they think I'm spending a months worth of rent and groceries on a GPU that can't even achieve 60 FPS on ultra settings, its a pure rip off. 

 

 

so if  i will  buy the  3700x  for 1440p for  my rtx  2080  will i be ok for  the next 3 years for 1440p  gaming?

[t-virus]

also  which motherboard are  you suggested me to  buy for  the  3700x?

 

which are the best  vrm  motherboards  for   the  3700x?/./

[BlackManINC]

59 minutes ago, t-virus said:

 

so if  i will  buy the  3700x  for 1440p for  my rtx  2080  will i be ok for  the next 3 years for 1440p  gaming?

 

CPU's tend to last longer than GPU's before they start to show their age. With the 3700X being more on the high end side, you should be just fine beyond the next three years, I have one myself. 

 

55 minutes ago, t-virus said:

also  which motherboard are  you suggested me to  buy for  the  3700x?

 

which are the best  vrm  motherboards  for   the  3700x?/./

 

The video below gives you the best AMD motherboards you can buy at different price ranges, but I can only recommend what I have, the Gigabyte X570 Auros Master (also shown in the video as a top 5 choice).

 

Link: X570 Auros Master

 

Top 5 Best X570 Motherboards:

 

[t-virus]

28 minutes ago, BlackManINC said:

 

CPU's tend to last longer than GPU's before they start to show their age. With the 3700X being more on the high end side, you should be just fine beyond the next three years, I have one myself. 

 

 

The video below gives you the best AMD motherboards you can buy at different price ranges, but I can only recommend what I have, the Gigabyte X570 Auros Master (also shown in the video as a top 5 choice).

 

Link: X570 Auros Master

 

Top 5 Best X570 Motherboards:

 

in  how many months the new zen 3  will release??

 

for  this i dont know  what to do?

 

to  buy  the 3700x  or to wait for  the  zen 3  this year?>?

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, BlackManINC said:

 

CPU's tend to last longer than GPU's before they start to show their age. With the 3700X being more on the high end side, you should be just fine beyond the next three years, I have one myself. 

 

 

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The CEO then added: “Let me [be] clear: you will see Zen 3 in 2020!”

 

“You should expect that we’re going to be very aggressive with the CPU roadmap … We’ve completed the family and Zen 3 is doing really well, we’re very pleased about it and you’ll hear more about it in 2020.”

 

 

 

 

[hsdjfh]

12 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The CEO then added: “Let me [be] clear: you will see Zen 3 in 2020!”

 

“You should expect that we’re going to be very aggressive with the CPU roadmap … We’ve completed the family and Zen 3 is doing really well, we’re very pleased about it and you’ll hear more about it in 2020.”

That doesn't necessarily mean a release, it's incredibly vague. It could mean something as simple as a demo, like we saw at CES last year for zen 2. That said, I would be very surprised if AMD doesn't release something on the desktop before Black Friday season. 

[Zberg]

23 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

The 3900X is not so good for gaming, in terms of value. A ryzen 7 3700X would deliver the same experience, and you'd get the same upgrade path going forward.

Ya he's right on.  A lot of the ryzen line does great (especially if you are gaming above 1080p, where its even more GPU dependent) and a 3600 does awesome at 1440p and 4k.  If you were really worried you could jump up to the 3700/3800X which does slightly better and might be your sweet spot (price/performance).  3900x gives you just a hair more for more cost unless you are going to do something with all those cores.

 

That said...3900x price drop to 400 on sale?!  That sale honestly has me thinking about it.

[Zberg]

2 hours ago, t-virus said:

 

so if  i will  buy the  3700x  for 1440p for  my rtx  2080  will i be ok for  the next 3 years for 1440p  gaming?

Yes, the 3700x is more than capable of handling 1440p gaming, and you wont hurt in the next 3 years vs a 9900k.  Itll be unlikely that any GPU pushes into frame rates that hurt CPU's like 1080p 240hz refresh does, and no GPUs right now can touch 1440p 240hz (plus I have not seen that monitor yet!).   Other than esports low graphics titles (overwatch, rocket league, LOL, DOTA) I dont get consistent 165hz at 1440p with a 2080ti.  We are at least a GPU generation away from seeing consistent 1440p high refresh being an option.

 

 

[BlackManINC]

46 minutes ago, hsdjfh said:

That doesn't necessarily mean a release, it's incredibly vague. It could mean something as simple as a demo, like we saw at CES last year for zen 2. That said, I would be very surprised if AMD doesn't release something on the desktop before Black Friday season. 

Hopefully that will be the RDNA 2 based GPU's, because I am eagerly waiting on the day I can decide what I replace my old RX 470 with. 

[Zberg]

The 9900k is an awesome CPU, and has its place in the right scenarios.

 

Gaming - king (although a small lead)

Adobe suite - does well, and if you are a photoshop user, its the king there too.  

8/16 config is a really nice spot for gaming/productivity that a lot of the market can use well

Specifically, adobe premiere and photoshop are 2 programs that are common, do really well with intel, and this CPU does great in.  Add gaming in, and faghetaboutit.  Thats a combo that a lot of people find themselves in (and I fell into as well)

 

It is and has been overpriced for sure.  Honestly if the 3900x was out and selling for 400 when I bought mine, I would have jumped to AMD

[CB_J_IRacing]

You would even be ok with a 2070 super. It's a 2080 die just less cache and such, it's just not as stable as a 2080 so the clocks go above and below what a 2080 runs. I'm only using the 3900x for multiple tasks and gaming but the 3700x and 2070super is more than enough 

[t-virus]

15 hours ago, BlackManINC said:

Hopefully that will be the RDNA 2 based GPU's, because I am eagerly waiting on the day I can decide what I replace my old RX 470 with. 

i dont understand something.,.   why some people recomende  the  3600x  against the 3700x  for  gaming?/

 

the  3700x  is more  futureproof against  the  3600x??  for  the  gaming?/

 

why  some people say  that  the  3600x is  better  in gaming against  the  3700x;

[t-virus]

1 hour ago, t-virus said:

i dont understand something.,.   why some people recomende  the  3600x  against the 3700x  for  gaming?/

 

the  3700x  is more  futureproof against  the  3600x??  for  the  gaming?/

 

why  some people say  that  the  3600x is  better  in gaming against  the  3700x;

Look what some persons told me for the 3600x and tell me if you agree



No, it's not, because you would give +130 euros for a guess. Nobody knows today to tell you if the games coming out in 2 years will lose by 6 cores / 12 threads. Get 3600 now and in 2 years, IF there is a problem, you sell it and you get a new one. The +130 euros today you will just lose because for 2 years they will not be used at all

The average user will never use 3700x even at 70%

 

 

[papajo]

11 minutes ago, t-virus said:

Look what some persons told me for the 3600x and tell me if you agree



No, it's not, because you would give +130 euros for a guess. Nobody knows today to tell you if the games coming out in 2 years will lose by 6 cores / 12 threads. Get 3600 now and in 2 years, IF there is a problem, you sell it and you get a new one. The +130 euros today you will just lose because for 2 years they will not be used at all

The average user will never use 3700x even at 70%

 

 

It all boils down to your budget. What are you willing to spend?  because its not just the CPU price difference, MoBos cost as well (and maybe you need to buy RAM too? ) so it must fit your budget. 

[t-virus]

3 minutes ago, papajo said:

It all boils down to your budget. What are you willing to spend?  because its not just the CPU price difference, MoBos cost as well (and maybe you need to buy RAM too? ) so it must fit your budget. 

i dont understand something.,.   why some people recomended  the  3600x  against the 3700x  for  gaming?/

 

the  3700x  is more  futureproof against  the  3600x??  for  the  gaming?/

 

why  some people say  that  the  3600x is  better  in gaming against  the  3700x;