MOBO for 3600???

[CriSis_]

Hi, 

I'm currently looking to build a £550 PC which is "future proof enough" (god i hate that word) for me to be able to upgrade my cpu in the future. The current specs are as follows - 

 

Note : I have a Samsung 860 evo 500gb which i already own, i wont be only rocking spinning rust

Note : GPU - EVGA GTX 1070 SC - pre owned : £100 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	£145.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard	£86.93 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£34.29 @ Amazon UK
Case	Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case	£50.99 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply	EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	£55.47 @ Scan.co.uk
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£463.65
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-24 20:09 GMT+0000

One of my main concerns is the MOBO, I have no clue if it will support Ryzen gen 3 out of the box or if it is capable of a future upgrade. 

 

Thanks for the help, 

Lex.

[callmejaccob]

I don't deal with Ryzen too much, but a B450 board will most likely work. I actually bought a B450 for my mom's Ryzen 3 3200G, so I can confirm if it works tonight.

[TetraSky]

It depends on whether or not you want to take your chances.

Because unless that motherboard was updated from the manufacturer with a newer BIOS, it shouldn't support Zen 2 CPU out of the box. Support was added on 2019/5/10. It's possible that the newer stocks of motherboards come equipped with a newer BIOS, but it's also possible that you'll get old stock.

 

From what I see, this motherboard also doesn't support BIOS flashback. (Which is the ability to bios flash without a CPU)

 

If you want to be 100% safe, you can get an MSI B450 Tomahawk if you want ATX or B450M Gaming Plus if you want M-ATX.

[CriSis_]

2 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

It depends on whether or not you want to take your chances.

Because unless that motherboard was updated from the manufacturer with a newer BIOS, it shouldn't support Zen 2 CPU out of the box. Support was added on 2019/5/10. It's possible that the newer stocks of motherboards come equipped with a newer BIOS, but it's also possible that you'll get old stock.

 

From what I see, this motherboard also doesn't support BIOS flashback. (Which is the ability to bios flash without a CPU)

 

If you want to be 100% safe, you can get an MSI B450 Tomahawk if you want ATX or B450M Gaming Plus if you want M-ATX.

Figured it might come down to this, the tomahawk max was a board I was considering buying a while back for another system of mine... Hesitated and shelled out the extra for an x570 when it had a bunch of strange stability issues. Any clue if it has been fixed ? 

 

[CriSis_]

6 minutes ago, WatEagle001 said:

I would instead go with msi, like the b450 tomahawk max. All mobos of max series have bios flashback button, so in case the bios isn’t updated and won’t get you to boot you can update it without cpu.

Figured this might be the best idea . Any clue if the tomahawk max stability issues have been sorted ? Looked at the board a while back for another build of mine due to the vrms but hesitated and shelled out for an x570 after a bunch of issues cropped up. 

[CriSis_]

10 minutes ago, callmejaccob said:

I don't deal with Ryzen too much, but a B450 board will most likely work. I actually bought a B450 for my mom's Ryzen 3 3200G, so I can confirm if it works tonight.

Great! Mind sending me the board model. Funny you mention your mother as this build is being created for the same purpose  

 

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Alexander Underwood said:

Figured this might be the best idea . Any clue if the tomahawk max stability issues have been sorted ? Looked at the board a while back for another build of mine due to the vrms but hesitated and shelled out for an x570 after a bunch of issues cropped up. 

havent heard of any noted issues in a really long time. so at least based on traffic here there arent any notable issues. 

12 minutes ago, WatEagle001 said:

I would instead go with msi, like the b450 tomahawk max. All mobos of max series have bios flashback button, so in case the bios isn’t updated and won’t get you to boot you can update it without cpu.

Max boards allways have the Bios updated. not all max boards have bios flashback. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£145.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£87.59 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£69.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£50.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£51.22 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £440.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-24 20:32 GMT+0000

 

a change id suggest if you dont mind not having the color scheme perfectly

 

edit: updated the build further to make it better