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So I have $1,000 and I need a pc. I have some parts picked out and I’m just wondering what your options are on it.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-9600KF 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $73.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $124.69 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card $329.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Classic 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $853.64
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $838.64
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 15:09 EST-0500  

 

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Please copy the link in the top left so we can see what you build looks like:

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What are you going to use the PC for? 

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/

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I dont think that Intel makes much sense atm.

 

Id go for a Ryzen 3600. Costs the same as the 9600 but has hyperthreading.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $73.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card $329.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Classic 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $843.94
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $828.94
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 15:22 EST-0500  

 

My Gaming PC:
Inno3D iChill Black - RTX 4080 - +500 Memory, undervolted Core, 2xCorsair QX120 (push) + 2xInno3D 120mm (pull)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - NZXT x72
G.SKILL Trident Z @6000MHz CL30 - 2x16GB
Asus Strix X670E-E Gaming

1x500GB Samsung 960 Pro (Windows 11 + 10)

1x2TB Kingston KC3000 (Games)

1x1TB WD Blue SN550 (Programs)

1x1TB Samsung 870 EVO (Programs)
Corsair RM-850X + native 12VHPWR-Cable

Lian Li O11 Vision
Alienware 360 HZ QD-OLED AW2725DF, MSI Optix MAG274QRFDE-QD, BenQ ZOWIE XL2720

Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight 2
Wooting 60HE

Audeze LCD2-C + FiiO K3

Klipsch RP600-M + Klipsch R-120 SW

 

My Notebook:

MacBook Pro 16 M1 Pro - 16GB

 

Proxmox-Cluster:

  • Ryzen 9 3950X, Asus Strix X570E F-Gaming, 4x32GB3200MHz ECC, 2x 512GB NVMe ZFS-Mirror (Boot, Testing-VMs + TrueNAS L2ARC), 2x14TB ZFS-Mirror + 1x3TB (TrueNAS-VM), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), Dual 10G NIC (Ceph), 2.5G NIC (VMs), 1G NIC (Cluster)
  • i7 8700k delidded undervolted, Gigabyte Z390 UD, 4x16GB 3200MHz, 2x 360GB HDD ZFS-Mirror (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), Dual 10G NIC (Ceph), 2.5G NIC (VMs), 1G NIC (Cluster)
  • i5 4670, 3x4GB + 1x8GB 1600MHz, 2x 240GB HDD ZFS-Mirror (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), Dual 10G NIC (Ceph), 2.5G NIC (VMs), 1G NIC (Cluster)

Proxmox-Backup-Server:

  • i5 4670, 4x4GB 1600MHz, 2x2TB ZFS-Mirror, 2,5G NIC
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1 minute ago, Noah0302 said:

I dont think that Intel makes much sense atm.

 

Id go for a Ryzen 3600. Costs the same as the 9600 but has hyperthreading.

I’m trying to build a gaming pc and I just don’t think amd is the right choice because I need FPS. Is the FPS a difference in this build 

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5 minutes ago, Stephen Planz said:

There 

Do you already have storage, a case and Windows thought out?

 

Anyways, IMO Ryzen 3600 makes more sense, than a 9600KF + AIO

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $771.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 15:19 EST-0500

 

You could also spend the difference in price between your build and my suggestion on a cooler, if you want your system to be quieter.

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

Do you already have storage, a case and Windows thought out?

 

Anyways, IMO Ryzen 3600 makes more sense, than a 9600KF + AIO

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $771.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 15:19 EST-0500

 

You could also spend the difference in price between your build and my suggestion on a cooler, if you want your system to be quieter.

I have a case m.2 and case fans and I can live with a watermark and is the FPS difference from intel to amd noticeable plus idc about the noise of my computer that much

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4 minutes ago, Stephen Planz said:

I’m trying to build a gaming pc and I just don’t think amd is the right choice because I need FPS. Is the FPS a difference in this build 

If you really need the couple of frames more, then I guess its the right choice for you.

But the difference really is quite low: https://youtu.be/ZcvRqVJS9jU?t=587

My Gaming PC:
Inno3D iChill Black - RTX 4080 - +500 Memory, undervolted Core, 2xCorsair QX120 (push) + 2xInno3D 120mm (pull)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - NZXT x72
G.SKILL Trident Z @6000MHz CL30 - 2x16GB
Asus Strix X670E-E Gaming

1x500GB Samsung 960 Pro (Windows 11 + 10)

1x2TB Kingston KC3000 (Games)

1x1TB WD Blue SN550 (Programs)

1x1TB Samsung 870 EVO (Programs)
Corsair RM-850X + native 12VHPWR-Cable

Lian Li O11 Vision
Alienware 360 HZ QD-OLED AW2725DF, MSI Optix MAG274QRFDE-QD, BenQ ZOWIE XL2720

Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight 2
Wooting 60HE

Audeze LCD2-C + FiiO K3

Klipsch RP600-M + Klipsch R-120 SW

 

My Notebook:

MacBook Pro 16 M1 Pro - 16GB

 

Proxmox-Cluster:

  • Ryzen 9 3950X, Asus Strix X570E F-Gaming, 4x32GB3200MHz ECC, 2x 512GB NVMe ZFS-Mirror (Boot, Testing-VMs + TrueNAS L2ARC), 2x14TB ZFS-Mirror + 1x3TB (TrueNAS-VM), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), Dual 10G NIC (Ceph), 2.5G NIC (VMs), 1G NIC (Cluster)
  • i7 8700k delidded undervolted, Gigabyte Z390 UD, 4x16GB 3200MHz, 2x 360GB HDD ZFS-Mirror (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), Dual 10G NIC (Ceph), 2.5G NIC (VMs), 1G NIC (Cluster)
  • i5 4670, 3x4GB + 1x8GB 1600MHz, 2x 240GB HDD ZFS-Mirror (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), Dual 10G NIC (Ceph), 2.5G NIC (VMs), 1G NIC (Cluster)

Proxmox-Backup-Server:

  • i5 4670, 4x4GB 1600MHz, 2x2TB ZFS-Mirror, 2,5G NIC
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Just now, Noah0302 said:

If you really need the couple of frames more, then I guess its the right choice for you.

But the difference really is quite low: https://youtu.be/ZcvRqVJS9jU?t=587

Ok if it’s only a couple of frames then I’d rather go with amd.

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Ryzen 3600 would be a smarter choice in my opinion (better multi-tasking, because of SMT, similar gaming performance to the 9600K or even better in really CPU intensive titles that might show stuttering or frametime inconsistencies with just 6C/6T, and better, more up-to-date and futureproof platform/socket), with either a high-end B450 board, such as MSI's Tomahawk Max, or a good X570 board, such as ASUS' TUF X570-PLUS.

I'd also suggest you consider air cooling instead of going with an AIO, as regular heatsinks are more reliable overall. You could stick with the 3600's stock cooler (or go with the 3600X if it's not much more expensive, which comes with a better stock cooler and also comes clocked a little higher out of the box), or go for something like a Noctua NH-U12S or be quiet Dark Rock 4 for both great cooling and near-silent operation.

Also, definitely ditch that PSU. Go for at least a Corsair CX550M, or the CX650M if you'd like some more headroom. Some nicer choices would be Corsair's RMx series or be quiet's Straight Power.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Display: Gigabyte G34WQC

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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Ryzen 3600 would be a smarter choice in my opinion (better multi-tasking, because of SMT, similar gaming performance to the 9600K or even better in really CPU intensive titles that might show stuttering or frametime inconsistencies with just 6C/6T, and better, more up-to-date and futureproof platform/socket), with either a high-end B450 board, such as MSI's Tomahawk Max, or a good X570 board, such as ASUS' TUF X570-PLUS.

I'd also suggest you consider air cooling instead of going with an AIO, as regular heatsinks are more reliable overall. You could stick with the 3600's stock cooler (or go with the 3600X if it's not much more expensive, which comes with a better stock cooler and also comes clocked a little higher out of the box), or go for something like a Noctua NH-U12S or be quiet Dark Rock 4 for both great cooling and near-silent operation.

Also, definitely ditch that PSU. Go for at least a Corsair CX550M, or the CX650M if you'd like some more headroom. Some nicer choices would be Corsair's RMx series or be quiet's Straight Power.

Yeah now I feel like amd seems like the right choice and idk anything about psu so I just picked a random one

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Here is the new build (just some random case because the one I bought isn’t on pcpartpicker)

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $238.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-L9i 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler $39.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $66.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card $329.99 @ Amazon
Case DIYPC DIY-A1-BK ATX Mid Tower Case $38.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $19.98 @ Amazon
Case Fan Apevia 312L-CWH 57.67 CFM 120 mm Fans $17.95 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $992.70
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 15:45 EST-0500  

 

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12 minutes ago, Stephen Planz said:

Here is the new build (just some random case because the one I bought isn’t on pcpartpicker)

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $238.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-L9i 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler $39.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $66.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card $329.99 @ Amazon
Case DIYPC DIY-A1-BK ATX Mid Tower Case $38.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $19.98 @ Amazon
Case Fan Apevia 312L-CWH 57.67 CFM 120 mm Fans $17.95 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $992.70
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 15:45 EST-0500  

 

Do you only have room for a small cooler in your case?

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/

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I'll recommend something like this instead..

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($61.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB RAW II Video Card  ($389.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.64 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($19.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $940.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 21:05 EST-0500

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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9 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

I'll recommend something like this instead..

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($61.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB RAW II Video Card  ($389.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.64 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($19.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $940.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-06 21:05 EST-0500

That’s what it looks like now 

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1 hour ago, Stephen Planz said:

That’s what it looks like now 

I hv upgraded the regular 5700 to 5700xt

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CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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I'm curious why you're choosing Intel. AMD represents a MUCH better value in 99.9% of cases. A Ryzen 5 3600 is about equivalent to that i5, but has 6 more threads, uses 7nm versus 14 nm and you have a sure upgrade path in the future.

 

The builds above are pretty solid...get the XT if you can afford it, but the RX 5700 should be plenty unless you're into 4k gaming.

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14 hours ago, steelo said:

I'm curious why you're choosing Intel. AMD represents a MUCH better value in 99.9% of cases. A Ryzen 5 3600 is about equivalent to that i5, but has 6 more threads, uses 7nm versus 14 nm and you have a sure upgrade path in the future.

 

The builds above are pretty solid...get the XT if you can afford it, but the RX 5700 should be plenty unless you're into 4k gaming.

I found a good xt that I can fit into my budget and I switched the i5 to a 3600x

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14 hours ago, steelo said:

I'm curious why you're choosing Intel. AMD represents a MUCH better value in 99.9% of cases. A Ryzen 5 3600 is about equivalent to that i5, but has 6 more threads, uses 7nm versus 14 nm and you have a sure upgrade path in the future.

 

The builds above are pretty solid...get the XT if you can afford it, but the RX 5700 should be plenty unless you're into 4k gaming.

How is the xfx 5700 xt. Is it good

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5 hours ago, Stephen Planz said:

How is the xfx 5700 xt. Is it good

I believe performance wise it is roughly equivalent to a GTX 2070 Super but is a better value. It is a good performing modern mid grade GPU, but the XT version tends to run very hot (which AMD states is 'normal') Some users are also having driver issues. but I believe that's mainly due to AMD's 2020 drivers

 

I have a RX 5700 (non-XT) and haven't had any serious issues. I'm not sure if the problems mainly relate to the XT version though.

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