wifi slower then advertised speed

[SHADY16]

so we just recently upgraded to gigabit internet through xfinity and while i get the full speed corded, my wifi tops out around 250-300 mbps on my iPhone 11 Pro max and other phones here in the house. is there any way i can get my wifi to the full 1gbps speeds? using the default modem/router that xfinity gives you. also would getting a Wifi 6 enabled route help?

[Wh0_Am_1]

9 minutes ago, SHADY16 said:

so we just recently upgraded to gigabit internet through xfinity and while i get the full speed corded, my wifi tops out around 250-300 mbps on my iPhone 11 Pro max and other phones here in the house. is there any way i can get my wifi to the full 1gbps speeds? using the default modem/router that xfinity gives you. also would getting a Wifi 6 enabled route help?

That would be the antennas in your Iphone slowing you down.  And no, at the moment 802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6) will not help you as the new bands have yet to be approved by most governing bodies.

[Jarsky]

What is the connect speed with the iPhone near the WiFi? 

 

Also does your WiFi have 802.11ac Wave2 4x4 MIMO?

Have you configured the 5Ghz Radio for the max Channel Width ?

What AP or Router is it?

[mynameisjuan]

You will never get gig speed on wireless regardless what anyone tells you until you hit 60ghz.

 

Best case scenario is around 450mbps on average on mobile devices. This varies with range/strength of signal. 300-400 is normal

[SpikeSpiegel]

34 minutes ago, SHADY16 said:

so we just recently upgraded to gigabit internet through xfinity and while i get the full speed corded, my wifi tops out around 250-300 mbps on my iPhone 11 Pro max and other phones here in the house. is there any way i can get my wifi to the full 1gbps speeds? using the default modem/router that xfinity gives you. also would getting a Wifi 6 enabled route help?

The only option is to contact them ask them to check your cable modem.  They can test it on their end.  Also have you tried Fast.com and Speedtest.com?  And compared speeds? 

[SHADY16]

3 hours ago, Jarsky said:

What is the connect speed with the iPhone near the WiFi? 

 

Also does your WiFi have 802.11ac Wave2 4x4 MIMO?

Have you configured the 5Ghz Radio for the max Channel Width ?

What AP or Router is it?

its the defaul modem/router combo xfinity provides for there gigabit internet, i think XB6 or something

3 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

You will never get gig speed on wireless regardless what anyone tells you until you hit 60ghz.

 

Best case scenario is around 450mbps on average on mobile devices. This varies with range/strength of signal. 300-400 is normal

 

3 hours ago, CalintzJerevinan said:

The only option is to contact them ask them to check your cable modem.  They can test it on their end.  Also have you tried Fast.com and Speedtest.com?  And compared speeds? 

i get the full gig on my pc wired its just on my wifi i only get max 400 (iPhone 11 Pro Max)

[mynameisjuan]

10 hours ago, SHADY16 said:

i get the full gig on my pc wired its just on my wifi i only get max 400 (iPhone 11 Pro Max

We know, I'm saying you will not get a gig on you phone. Period.

[Alex Atkin UK]

20 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

You will never get gig speed on wireless regardless what anyone tells you until you hit 60ghz.

 

Best case scenario is around 450mbps on average on mobile devices. This varies with range/strength of signal. 300-400 is normal

iperf3 seems to think my S10 can reach 600Mbit to my NAS, although I'm always a bit dubious as my laptop can also only hit 600Mbit but needs twice the channel width to do so (160Mhz vs 80Mhz).

In all honesty, I fail to see a scenario where I need anything close to that on my phone anyway.  Gigabit broadband is mostly about never hitting contention issues between several devices online at the same time, rather than getting Gigabit to a single device.

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

iperf3 seems to think my S10 can reach 600Mbit to my NAS, although I'm always a bit dubious as my laptop can also only hit 600Mbit but needs twice the channel width to do so (160Mhz vs 80Mhz).

In all honesty, I fail to see a scenario where I need anything close to that on my phone anyway.  Gigabit broadband is mostly about never hitting contention issues between several devices online at the same time, rather than getting Gigabit to a single device.

That sounds right. All I know is MacBooks tend to have the best wireless chips and at most care barely pass 800. I never heard anything that comes close.

If my S10 can do 600 that's pretty impressive! I have never gotten around to try but like you I don't have a need for that speed.

[Alex Atkin UK]

7 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

That sounds right. All I know is MacBooks tend to have the best wireless chips and at most care barely pass 800. I never heard anything that comes close.

If my S10 can do 600 that's pretty impressive! I have never gotten around to try but like you I don't have a need for that speed.

Its kinda weird to be honest as the S10 was able to achieve it even on a janky OpenWRT router repurposed as an AP, but the laptop was all over the place until I upgraded to a unifiHD and was able to use 160Mhz channel width.

I believe you CAN hit Gigabit, but its not going to happen on a phone as you'd need 3x3 or maybe even 4x4 MIMO.  Although with the S10 already outdoing my laptop using half the channel width, it sure would be interesting to see a phone supporting 160Mhz as maybe it would actually pull it off.  (although if people start routinely using 160Mhz channel widths, I'd expect speeds to end up even slower in the end due to crosstalk as MIMO is the only efficient way to achieve speed)

I will certainly be upgrading to WiFi 6 once its ratified and Uniquiti release an AP based on that final specification.  Very impressed with the unifiHD.

[SHADY16]

46 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Its kinda weird to be honest as the S10 was able to achieve it even on a janky OpenWRT router repurposed as an AP, but the laptop was all over the place until I upgraded to a unifiHD and was able to use 160Mhz channel width.

I believe you CAN hit Gigabit, but its not going to happen on a phone as you'd need 3x3 or maybe even 4x4 MIMO.  Although with the S10 already outdoing my laptop using half the channel width, it sure would be interesting to see a phone supporting 160Mhz as maybe it would actually pull it off.  (although if people start routinely using 160Mhz channel widths, I'd expect speeds to end up even slower in the end due to crosstalk as MIMO is the only efficient way to achieve speed)

I will certainly be upgrading to WiFi 6 once its ratified and Uniquiti release an AP based on that final specification.  Very impressed with the unifiHD.

the iPhone 11 pro Max supports 4x4 mimo at least its supposed to but sometimes it struggles to even hit 200 mbps now when before the upgrade it used to hit 250-300 consistantly so the upgrade to gigabit actually slowed my wifi 

[Donut417]

1 hour ago, SHADY16 said:

iPhone 11 pro Max supports 4x4 mimo at least its supposed to but sometimes it struggles to even hit 200 mbps now when before the upgrade it used to hit 250-300 consistantly

My guess is your limited by the XB6. Not sure on its WiFi spec, but your fucking lucky they even offer AC wireless. I highly doubt it supports 4x4 mimo. Even then, WiFi is still very limited. It could very well be your home. Building materials differ by country. If you house is made like a concreate bunker then that could very well be an issue. Also the placement of your gateway. If its tucked in the corner of your home, its not really doing much for you. 

 

First thing I would do is evaluate where your gateway  and what your home is made out of. 

[SHADY16]

1 minute ago, Donut417 said:

My guess is your limited by the XB6. Not sure on its WiFi spec, but your fucking lucky they even offer AC wireless. I highly doubt it supports 4x4 mimo. Even then, WiFi is still very limited. It could very well be your home. Building materials differ by country. If you house is made like a concreate bunker then that could very well be an issue. Also the placement of your gateway. If its tucked in the corner of your home, its not really doing much for you. 

 

First thing I would do is evaluate where your gateway  and what your home is made out of. 

thats the thing my modem/router is in my room even when im next to it i dont get passed 300 often or even 250 for that matter, im pinning it on the limitation of the modem/router they provided which is why im wondering would i benefit from a Wifi 6 Router at all

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, SHADY16 said:

im pinning it on the limitation of the modem/router they provided which is why im wondering would i benefit from a Wifi 6 Router at all

Gateways tend to suffer from crappy WiFi. Which is why I always have a modem and seperate router. BTW your renting that pile shit gateway and giving them probably around $14 a month for it. I have Comcast, the have a pretty large list of retail modems that they support. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

On 1/4/2020 at 1:24 AM, SHADY16 said:

thats the thing my modem/router is in my room even when im next to it i dont get passed 300 often or even 250 for that matter, im pinning it on the limitation of the modem/router they provided which is why im wondering would i benefit from a Wifi 6 Router at all

If you have the money to burn then the Ubiquiti AmpliFi Alien sounds like a beast, although I'm dubious about any WiFi 6 hardware right now as its still pre-ratification and now there is talk of adding 6Ghz WiFi to it as well.  There are no guarantees anything you buy today will be fully standards compliant at the end of the year.

 

Its why I went for the unifiHD instead, you still get 4x4 MU-MIMO WiFi 5 and I will upgrade to WiFi 6 in a year or two.