New GPU 1660 Super Questions! [Brands / Compatibility etc.]

[K i a r a]

Upgrading from my 1050ti to a 1660 Super

 

I have a lot of questions to ask and was hoping someone or some people could help me!
This is where I am going to be buying the card.

1660 Supers. Here

 

Before I am REALLY hoping on a Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale, with a quick look, I noticed a 1660Ti HERE for 60$ off. 

My questions is does it go from worst to best like this?

 

1660 > 1660Ti > 1660 Super being the best?

 

1. What are the difference in brands?

Something like Zotac or EVGA are around 300$ while MSI is near 370$ (CAD) 

Is there something I should be looking for in the card? Such as Overclocked I know not to go wtih the minis. 

 

2. 6 Pin Connector?

So I have a EVGA 600 B1 and I am not sure if it has the right connectors for this GPU. if anyone knows let me know!

 

3. Mother board compatibility 

I have a ABPro 350 Mother board. 

 

4. Monitor Setup

So I currently have my monitor going from VGI to HDMI to the GPU.

Then a TV for YouTube and such with HDMI to DVI to the GPU.

I noticed on most of the 1660s its 1 HDMI and 3 Display ports, is this gonna work? Or what kinda wire am I gonna need.

 

Thanks Alot

[Fasauceome]

13 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

My questions is does it go from worst to best like this?

 

1660 > 1660Ti > 1660 Super being the best?

1660 < 1660 super < 1660 ti, with a very small difference between the super and ti.

 

13 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

2. 6 Pin Connector?

So I have a EVGA 600 B1 and I am not sure if it has the right connectors for this GPU. if anyone knows let me know!

the B1 ought to have a PCIe connector for it

[Bombastinator]

1. Different models have different features.  Some will be faster some will be quieter some will be cheaper.  You generally can’t have all three.  The brand doesn’t matter much though, as they vary constantly between features.  The model generally does.

 

2. no idea but the internet will.  To make it more fun faster more expensive cards need more power so some will have different connections.

look up your PSU on google and find out what connections it has

 

3. no idea what an abpro motherboard is again, google will know.

 

4. Very few cards still have dvi ports.  I assume vgi  means vga.  There are numerous ways they could be hooked up.  Does your monitor have anything besides VGA?  VGA is even older than  dvi.

[K i a r a]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

4. 

I just checked the back, it isn't that old of a monitor but its not anything special. it has a DVI-D In Port and a VGA.

[Bombastinator]

Argh.  Trust me it’s old.  You may have bought it new but it was made a long time ago.

17 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

I just checked the back, it isn't that old of a monitor but its not anything special. it has a DVI-D In Port and a VGA.

so new old stock.  Dvi-d will give you digital picture but will cost buying another cable.  Luckily hdmi is still used.  
 

cheapest solution (hopefully)

A dviD to display port cable would give you 1 hdmi and 1 DisplayPort which would work.  You replace only the tv cable and leave the monitor alone.  The monitor may not work though because some GPUs can no longer produce analog output.  In this case see “even more futureproofing”

futureproofing

 That dviD is old though.  There is an argument for instead of getting a cable for the tv, getting a dviD to DisplayPort adaptor and a display port cable so the next time this happens you won’t have to find dviD as it may no longer exist.

even more futureproofing

If you also want to get your monitor off vga you’ll need two adaptors and two cables from “futureproofing” DviD doesn’t have any more resolution than vga but it is digital. 

 

[K i a r a]

18 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

 

 

Slightly confused on this one.

 

So my TV uses HDMI to HDMI 
Therefore the HDMI port is gone on the GPU.

 

Monitor I need a Display port to DVI?

Would something like this work? 

https://www.amazon.ca/AmazonBasics-DisplayPort-DVI-Cable-Feet/dp/B014RWWURC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3NMJJ4JW071P8&keywords=displayport+to+dvi&qid=1575069111&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&sprefix=Display+Port+%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTzlTWUtaUUcxUFNRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjIzMzkyQVlXREw2M0M4RjJXJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTkwMjMzTVNDMlU4QUxNTkkmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

[K i a r a]

18 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

1660 < 1660 super < 1660 ti, with a very small difference between the super and ti.

 

the B1 ought to have a PCIe connector for it

Question, 

It says it needs a 8 Pin power connector. 

From the EVGA spec website, I dont see the 8pin Connector.

https://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/PSU.aspx?pn=e7a4ca30-cc2f-4769-b8ac-4293f30e7820

It does have a PCIe cable, but idk if its the right one. 

[Fasauceome]

20 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

It says it needs a 8 Pin power connector. 

From the EVGA spec website, I dont see the 8pin Connector

 

Double 8 pin available

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, K i a r a said:

Slightly confused on this one.

 

So my TV uses HDMI to HDMI 
Therefore the HDMI port is gone on the GPU.

 

Monitor I need a Display port to DVI?

Would something like this work? 

https://www.amazon.ca/AmazonBasics-DisplayPort-DVI-Cable-Feet/dp/B014RWWURC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3NMJJ4JW071P8&keywords=displayport+to+dvi&qid=1575069111&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&sprefix=Display+Port+%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTzlTWUtaUUcxUFNRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjIzMzkyQVlXREw2M0M4RjJXJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTkwMjMzTVNDMlU4QUxNTkkmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

No.  Your TV would go hdmi to DisplayPort. And your monitor would go dvi to hdmi.  The only hope for the monitor is to use the hdmi connection.  Even that might not work, but it’s the best shot.

 

Your confusion turns out to be handy though.  I was assuming your monitor and/or your TV was digital or at least digital capable.  It’s possible they’re not. If they’re both analog only it’s a problem.  They will both eventually be made obsolete because the only thing left that is even sort of analog is the HDMI port.

 

Gonna need the make and model of both devices so they can be looked up to find out if either one is digital.

The complicated way:

The object of the game is to get both things running for minimal money if possible.

 You got to get rid of all the dvi, or at the very least convert from it.  Dvi is dying or nearly dead.  Manufacturers didn’t like dvi. (Why will be shown) This is why adaptors are better than cables.  An adaptor converts the port.  If you change again you may have an entirely different standard to convert from and you may not be able to get something that attaches to dvi at all on the future.

 

The problem is dvi on your monitor could be dvi-i or dviD, or dvi-dL. If it’s dvi-dL it’s a problem.  It probably isn’t though because the vga is there so it’s probably dvi-I or dviD.

IF your monitor is analog you may still have a serious problem because a lot of stuff won’t do analog any more either. If it IS dvi-I or dvi-DL it will never run right unless it can get an analog signal, which may no longer be available at all anywhere. HDMI will at least pass analog though, So we YOLO it and hope that the port is dviD and abandon the vga port because it is analog only.... crap.  It just occurred to me that BOTH the TV and the monitor might be analog.

 

on the new card you have only one port that even might pass analog and two devices that might need it.  Need the specs on both devices to see if even anything can be done.

[K i a r a]

4 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

 

Thanks for the reply, tbh with you I have no idea what you are saying.

 

The Monitor is an Acer H21HQL. ( I can find legit no Info on it) 
Besides I can tell you it has a DVI-D IN & VGA in.

 

TV is this: Insignia 40" 1080p HD 60Hz LED TV (NS-40D420NA20)

 https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/insignia-40-1080p-hd-60hz-led-tv-ns-40d420na20/13362086?cmp=knc-s-71700000056140580&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoIPvBRDgARIsAHsCw0_58-QzQ1A8k-SBAMykFaW5ttpoWDfU_jNgIMwJG7psxcfuivMqJ9QaAinCEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

But mine is 720p, Same looking tho cant find the Ad.

 

And yes, I didnt think it would be this big of a hassle. But I need the cheapest route, I cant buy another monitor 

 

 

[Bombastinator]

One may be enough though it’s a bit of a gamble.  

I can’t find anything on the monitor either.  That’s flat out weird.  My guess is that the name is wrong.

your TV is probably digital.  It’s LED, and it’s got  hdmi 1.4 ports.  It doesn’t actually say digital though so it’s only probably.  Your monitor might be digital capable too, but let’s pretend it isn’t.

 

Move is still the same: convert TV hdmi to display port, and convert monitor dvi to hdmi.  

the monitor may just fail though.  I wish there was data on that monitor.

[K i a r a]

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Move is still the same: convert TV hdmi to display port, and convert monitor dvi to hdmi.  

the monitor may just fail though.  I wish there was data on that monitor.

So just buy Hdmi to display port? 

 

This?

[Bombastinator]

6 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

So just buy Hdmi to display port? 

 

This?

Tried to look at your link but amazon failed spectacularly.

 

assuming “this” is a cable that has hdmi on one end and DisplayPort on the other then yes.  And pray the monitor works.  If it doesn’t, the monitor is legacy and you’ll have to put your old 1550ti back in until you can replace the monitor with something digital.

[K i a r a]

  

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Tried to look at your link but amazon failed spectacularly.

 

assuming “this” is a cable that has hdmi on one end and DisplayPort on the other then yes.  And pray the monitor works.  If it doesn’t, the monitor is legacy and you’ll have to put your old 1550ti back in until you can replace the monitor with something digital.

  

Yeah 

Here 

Spoiler

Why would the monitor stop working, if nothing has changed? 

is the issue, that the 1660 is to new? 

[Bombastinator]

6 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

  

  

Yeah 

Here 

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Why would the monitor stop working, if nothing has changed? 

is the issue, that the 1660 is to new? 

Yes.  It might be too new for the old monitor.

IF the monitor is analog only.  It might not be.  Also the 1660 is built off the 1600 so it might still speak analog on the HDMI port.  Even a 1600 might be too new though.  I don’t know.

[K i a r a]

On 11/29/2019 at 6:38 PM, Fasauceome said:

 

Double 8 pin available

Wait a second. 
I’m confused now, I’m cleaning my computer and took everything out. Nothing plugs into the GPU from the power supply right? I still have my 1050 rn but just noticed it’s only plugged into the mother board right

[Fasauceome]

16 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

Nothing plugs into the GPU from the power supply right? I still have my 1050 rn but just noticed it’s only plugged into the mother board right

the vast majority of 1050 models do not have a pcie power connector, they only get their power from the motherboard.

 

For anything at least as powerful as a 1060 3gb/RX 470, every unit will have a 6 pin or 8 pin pcie connector at least

[K i a r a]

58 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

the vast majority of 1050 models do not have a pcie power connector, they only get their power from the motherboard.

 

For anything at least as powerful as a 1060 3gb/RX 470, every unit will have a 6 pin or 8 pin pcie connector at least

Ohhh very interesting. 
like this? It’s 6+2. 
And maybe you can help me. I’m almost done putting my computer together. 
but I don’t use the PCI-E cable at all rn bc I have a 1050 right? I completely forgot. And I can’t find my manual

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

like this? It’s 6+2.

that's the one. 

 

and for non extreme graphics cards, it's cool to use both of the leads on a single cable for your GPU. Many people ask if daisy chained PCIe connectors are safe, and the only time they're not is when you are doing it from a mediocre PSU to a very power hungry GPU.

[K i a r a]

28 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

that's the one. 

 

and for non extreme graphics cards, it's cool to use both of the leads on a single cable for your GPU. Many people ask if daisy chained PCIe connectors are safe, and the only time they're not is when you are doing it from a mediocre PSU to a very power hungry GPU.

So that’s the one I need on the 1660. 
But like the 1050 there is no need for it right? I can just tuck it away for now ? Im confused

[Fasauceome]

Just now, K i a r a said:

So that’s the one I need on the 1660. 
But like the 1050 there is no need for it right? I can just tuck it away for now ? Im confused

yes

 

you don't sound confused, so far you've explained everything correctly with your questions.

[K i a r a]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

yes

Thanks for the help! 
I finally put it all back together. And now waiting for my 1660ti to come in the mail. 
 

have you ever tried PC on the table? 
I have a lot of dust in my room for what ever reason. So was suggested to try it on my table and maybe it will help with the dust build up. 

[Fasauceome]

19 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

have you ever tried PC on the table? 
I have a lot of dust in my room for what ever reason. So was suggested to try it on my table and maybe it will help with the dust build up. 

I never noticed a difference, but I think the best practice is cleaning regularly. That's what I do, and the dust filters help a lot