Latency vs. speed for Ryzen? 3600X vs. overclock?

[hjvt]

I need help choosing between those CL19 3600MHz and CAS16 3200MHz kits (Or a better option in the same price range), and between R5 3600 + higher end mobo vs R5 3600X + something B450 based.

 

And on the side, are be quiet! PSUs any good? I'm looking at something like this Pure Power 11 CM 80+ Gold 600W.

[1van]

The sticks you've listed are both not good, not only because of the speed/timings combination, but also that Ripjaws V heatsink is worthless (doesn't touch the chips on the side, and in the middle, runs hot overall), but tallish at the same time (limited cooler compatibility). A few positive things about them is that's G.Skill and they have a built-in thermal sensor.

 

For Zen 2 I'd recommend Micron E-die (if you are on a budget): https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/ballistix-sport-lt-rot-16gb-ddr4-kit-2x8gb-ram

3000 CL15 or 3200CL16 (AES), it can be manually OC-d to 3600 tight timings.

Not 3000CL16, etc.

Or something like https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/patriot-viper-steel-16gb-ddr4-kit-2x8gb-ram

you could use them as is, or downclock with tighter timing/overclock a bit, if you are lucky.

 

The PSU you've picked is good. 3600 (non-X) and a higher-end board is a better option, since Zen2 prices will fall quite soon. I'd even consider to buy a cheap Zen+ instead and upgrade later (like 2600/2700).

 

Btw, Buildzoid has a great recent video on youtube explaining all about RAM in every price range and size combination, look it up.

[SavageNeo]

29 minutes ago, hjvt said:

And on the side, are be quiet! PSUs any good? I'm looking at something like this Pure Power 11 CM 80+ Gold 600W.

decent, but you should get rmx 550w or rmx 650w from corsair instead, even cx550w.

https://www.amazon.de/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_computers_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&adId=A00081021O03HN10CTQXM&url=%2FCorsair-RM650x-PC-Netzteil-Voll-Modulares-Kabelmanagement%2Fdp%2FB07CJ3Y52K%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3F__mk_de_DE%3D%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91%26keywords%3Drmx%2B650%26qid%3D1574519833%26s%3Dcomputers%26sr%3D1-1-spons%26psc%3D1&qualifier=1574519833&id=2150250419305097&widgetName=sp_atf

29 minutes ago, hjvt said:

I need help choosing between those CL19 3600MHz and CAS16 3200MHz kits

get either this: https://www.amazon.de/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_computers_sr_pg1_2?ie=UTF8&adId=A044796324HP7YG2VVBGY&url=%2FCorsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Performance-Arbeitsspeicher%2Fdp%2FB0134EW7G8%2Fref%3Dsr_1_2_sspa%3F__mk_de_DE%3D%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91%26keywords%3D3200mhz%2Bcl15%26qid%3D1574519685%26s%3Dcomputers%26sr%3D1-2-spons%26psc%3D1&qualifier=1574519685&id=8851415248362632&widgetName=sp_atf

 

or this: https://www.amazon.de/Crucial-Ballistix-BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK-Desktop-Speicher/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=3600mhz+cl16&qid=1574519703&s=computers&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&sr=1-3

 

 

29 minutes ago, hjvt said:

and between R5 3600 + higher end mobo vs R5 3600X + something B450 based.

r5 3600x (has better stock cooler than 3600 and 5% better performance) and msi b450 tomahawk max (has already bios updated to 3rd gen ryzen support, u do not need to nios update it yourself)

[hjvt]

20 minutes ago, 1van said:

The sticks you've listed are both not good, not only because of the speed/timings combination, but also that Ripjaws V heatsink is worthless (doesn't touch the chips on the side, and in the middle, runs hot overall), but tallish at the same time (limited cooler compatibility). A few positive things about them is that's G.Skill and they have a built-in thermal sensor.

Huh, when I was asking for GPU recommendations on reddit and had Corsair Vengeance LPX as a stand-in RAM based purely off the pricing, I was told to pick some decent ram and given a link to Ripjaws V.

2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

r5 3600x (has better stock cooler than 3600 and 5% better performance) and msi b450 tomahawk max (has already bios updated to 3rd gen ryzen support, u do not need to nios update it yourself)

I plan to switch to AIO later on, when i'll be picking up RX5700XT, so I don't care too much about stock cooler.

11 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

decent, but you should get rmx 550w or rmx 650w from corsair instead, even cx550w.

CX550 seems to only have 80+ Bronze and RM550X is well, 10eur more for less power.

[1van]

6 minutes ago, hjvt said:

Huh, when I was asking for GPU recommendations on reddit and had Corsair Vengeance LPX as a stand-in RAM based purely off the pricing, I was told to pick some decent ram and given a link to Ripjaws V.

I achsually own a kit of Ripjaws V 3200CL14, so speaking from experience here)

Btw, for a 3200CL16 "garbage bin" Corsair LPX is a great choice, if there is a sale/good price. Basically, for 3200CL16 you can buy any DRAM, based on its price and looks.

 

I have a bunch of LPX, too, it is not a bad RAM. The fact that Corsair makes DDR4 5000 MHz sticks in this line kind of confirms it.