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Here is a playlist of benchmarks of the 2600 and 1660 Ti combo:

Compare it with any Ryzen 5 3600 + RX 590 benchmark out there and you will see that i am right.

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1 hour ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

The SSD is inferior quality. A 970 samsung is MUCH nicer.

no its not. 

 

among the propper m.2 SSDs there is really only a few steppings increased performance. and the 970 is just rarely if ever worth it. 

 

only the Samsung 970 Pro makes sense if you do MASSIVE read and write sessions each day. 

 

A2000 kingston or MP34 or perhaps even the inland premium is more than fine for 90% of people. 

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1 hour ago, Skipple said:

Perhaps it's my location but there is only a $10 difference for me. 

$190 vs $200.

That $10 is entirely for the CPU then, the cooler isnt worth the extra dollar especially since the 3600X runs hotter on its own than the 3600, so it's mandatory for the box cooler to be better. Still sucks though, for coolers heatsink size rules and the box coolers just cant compete with $30 towers.

 

1 hour ago, Skipple said:

Not going to disagree with that at all but I question why you would want to do that. If the temps go from 65 to 55 underload... Why would you care? You aren't going to be OCing a Ryzen 3rd gen chip anyway. 

From what I've read the 3600 and 3600X, with their stock cooler, get to 80C pretty effortlessly...

 

1 hour ago, Skipple said:

Personal opinion, I know, but I really don't care about case airflow. Have minimal impact on anything. I would take that $50 and throw it back at the CPU. 

you're just being good to the environment and never use systems that pull more than 200W.

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37 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Here is a playlist of benchmarks of the 2600 and 1660 Ti combo

Compare it with any Ryzen 5 3600 + RX 590 benchmark out there and you will see that i am right.

better now versus better for the future. Thing is there's not really a CPU to really upgrade to for gaming on Ryzen once you get the 3600 (or maybe 4th gen comes out on the same socket), while GPUs can always get better. Needless to say CPUs often stay in the same gaming rig for much longer.

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1 hour ago, Vishera said:

That's wrong.even the 1660 beats the RX 590.

No, it's not wrong.

The 590 and 1660 are pretty much on par.

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2548?vs=2544

 

Pair it with a weaker CPU, it's going to lose performance. If you compare the two here, there isn't much of a gap.

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2548?vs=2541

 

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1 hour ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

The SSD is inferior quality. A 970 samsung is MUCH nicer. Also, why did you choose a 3600 kit? Wouldn't that make almost zero difference?

ADATA SX8200 pro is even nicer. Beats the 970 Evo on pretty much all benches, just slightly, and is a good bit cheaper. If I'd known it was an option when I got my 1TB 970 Evo, I'd have gone for the ADATA instead. 

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

No, it's not wrong.

The 590 and 1660 are pretty much on par.

The 1660 still beats the RX 590,

The 1660 and the RX 590 are close.

6 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Pair it with a weaker CPU, it's going to lose performance. If you compare the two here, there isn't much of a gap.

Yes but in the list i put a 1660 Ti not a 1660.

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3 minutes ago, Vishera said:

The 1660 still beats the RX 590,

The 1660 and the RX 590 are close.

Yes but in the list i put a 1660 Ti not a 1660.

You're only looking at it at face value, and not accounting for the performance drop you're taking with the weaker CPU.

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Just now, dizmo said:

You're only looking at it at face value, and not accounting for the performance drop you're taking with the weaker CPU.

I did,it's still faster,didn't you read this post of mine?:

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

Here is a playlist of benchmarks of the 2600 and 1660 Ti combo:

Compare it with any Ryzen 5 3600 + RX 590 benchmark out there and you will see that i am right.

 

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1 minute ago, Vishera said:

I did,it's still faster,didn't you read this post of mine?:

 

While I understand what you're trying to say, unless you have the same gameplay, in the same section, on the other set up the results will be skewed.
That's why benchmark programs are important; they have the exact same rendering for each run.

Framerates can, and do vary wildly in different parts of games.

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Just now, dizmo said:

While I understand what you're trying to say, unless you have the same gameplay, in the same section, on the other set up the results will be skewed.
That's why benchmark programs are important; they have the exact same rendering for each run.

Framerates can, and do vary wildly in different parts of games.

There are benchmarks there,for example the Far Cry 5 benchmark,the Final Fantasy XV benchmark,Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark,Assassin's Creed Odyssey benchmark and many more.

Those benchmarks i listed are not gameplay.

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2 hours ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:
2 hours ago, Vishera said:

the 1660Ti is definitely a nicer card.

It'd likely perform about the same

Its a bit faster

I have never written such a thing,

You simply quoted the quote of @dizmo in my post:

2 hours ago, dizmo said:

Eh, yes and no. The 2600 is pretty far behind the 3600 in terms of performance...though the 1660Ti is definitely a nicer card.

It'd likely perform about the same, and the storage options are worse.

 

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