pins on cpu vs motherboard

[vaughnage92]

I haven't been able to find a decent answer. So why do AMD cpu's have the pins on the cpu, and why does intel put theirs on the motherboard? Just manufacturing techniques? Or does either one have an advantage/disadvantage?

[defunkt]

Just how they do it. Intel used to have the pins on the cpu.

[madscientist56]

Intel had pins on their CPUs too not so long ago, I think the mainly changed to putting pins on the mobo to decrease rma rates in their CPUs because of bent pins
, however mobo manufactures weren't too happy about that because now they have to worry about bent pins

[flibberdipper]

Yep, just the way they do it. Up until LGA 775 hit, Intel used pins. Intel CPU's are more durable, since there aren't any pins on them. However, AMD sockets are tougher since there are no pins in them.

[Ryan Leech]

Pins on the CPU are better for the motherboard manufacturers, pins in the socket are better for the cpu manufacturer 

[CCap]

Intel essentially said "Screw you guys" to the motherboard manufacturers. AMD so far has shown it's pretty classy about it and just left the pins on the CPU so it's their problem rather than the motherboard manufacturers. 

 

//CCap

[Benjamin G]

I would say Intels method is more efficient as I'd rather break my board than my CPU

[Morpheus]

I feel like intel wasn't completely wrong in saying "screw you" to mobo manufacturers because pins on the socket are a lot safer than ones on a cpu..

[vaughnage92]

Hmm that makes sense about the durability and such. Really sucks for the mobo manufactures lol. Intel gave them the shaft.

[CCap]

I feel like intel wasn't completely wrong in saying "screw you" to mobo manufacturers because pins on the socket are a lot safer than ones on a cpu..

Good point. In all fairness though, intel can really do whatever they want with their 120 Billion Dollars. 

[Guest]

Yep, just the way they do it. Up until LGA 775 hit, Intel used pins. Intel CPU's are more durable, since there aren't any pins on them. However, AMD sockets are tougher since there are no pins in them.

AMD mobos are tanks

[vaughnage92]

Good point. In all fairness though, intel can really do whatever they want with their 120 Billion Dollars.

No kidding, if the manufactures denied it, intel could just say ok we will use our own mobos..then the manufactures would instantly be out over 50% of their business.

[Cwazywazy]

When I was younger, I bent many P4 pins. (They were old CPUs, I was just testing them.)

 

When I got a Core 2 Duo board I managed to bend the pins on the motherboard. (I don't even remember touching them..)

[CCap]

No kidding, if the manufactures denied it, intel could just say ok we will use our own mobos..then the manufactures would instantly be out over 50% of their business.

Which sort of proves the point Intel isn't always a jerk (for lack of a better forum friendly term) about the way they operate their company. If they really wanted to, they could manufacture their own motherboards, and see a 10% to 50% increase in their overall company size. Anyways, I'm getting off topic here more than I should. Long story short Intel does what they want, and this is how they want to do it, end of story. 

 

//CCap

[daemonowner]

Not too sure about that CCap. I don't know very much at all about this, but I imagine Intel recognises that Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock, MSI, etc make better motherboards than they can. I wouldn't buy an Intel CPU and then have to buy an Intel motherboard, I think I would just make the switch to AMD so long as I could buy a nice motherboard from one of the above companies. I doubt that Intel was simply being nice by not screwing Asus and the rest over, it was probably more a case of that decision screwing over everyone including themselves.

[Kamina]

To save money, I presume. 

[Jobobee]

Which sort of proves the point Intel isn't always a jerk (for lack of a better forum friendly term) about the way they operate their company. If they really wanted to, they could manufacture their own motherboards, and see a 10% to 50% increase in their overall company size. Anyways, I'm getting off topic here more than I should. Long story short Intel does what they want, and this is how they want to do it, end of story. //CCap

They do manufacture their own motherboards, they're damn good too.

[squirrl]

They do manufacture they're own motherboards, they're damn good too.

*did

They don't do desktop motherboards anymore, (stopped recently)

[harrynowl]

I haven't been able to find a decent answer. So why do AMD cpu's have the pins on the cpu, and why does intel put theirs on the motherboard? Just manufacturing techniques? Or does either one have an advantage/disadvantage?

I don't really think there is any disadvantage. I guess one would be generally CPUs cost more than motherboards to replace so if you bend pins on an AMD CPU it costs more to replace (although most AMD CPUs are cheap anyway) than bending pins on an Intel board.

[flibberdipper]

Which sort of proves the point Intel isn't always a jerk (for lack of a better forum friendly term) about the way they operate their company. If they really wanted to, they could manufacture their own motherboards, and see a 10% to 50% increase in their overall company size. Anyways, I'm getting off topic here more than I should. Long story short Intel does what they want, and this is how they want to do it, end of story. 

 

//CCap

They do manufacture their own mobos (well, I know they used to. Not sure about now). Some were the green OEM ones, others were really badass gaming ones.

[totjup5]

I prefer pins on the Cpu because it keeps a point of failure off of the motherboard.

[-iSynthesis]

I`ve got a intel cpu lying arround with pins on it