cpu 3700x stock cooler or 3600 custom cooler

[bert22]

Hey!

What is better?

 

Focus on performance = 3700x + wraith prism

                            or

Focus on temperature = 3600 + costum cooler (dark rock 4; be quiet)

 

Please justify your answer. Thanks

[Jurrunio]

better for what

[bert22]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

better for what

Better in total.

Is it more important to focus on performance and have slightly higher temps or just building a system with a decent cooling ?

[Stormseeker9]

6 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Hey!

What is better?

 

Focus on performance = 3700x + wraith prism

                            or

Focus on temperture = 3600 + costum cooler (dark rock 4; be quiet)

 

Please justify your answer. Thanks

3600 does not need a aftermarket cooler. The included cooler suffices. 
 

Even for a 3700x not necessarily needed, but you could go with something like this for some extra cooling. Price DRP4 $90 so went 2/3 of that 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$63.75 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$63.75
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 18:02 EDT-0400

 

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Better in total.

Is it more important to focus on performance and have slightly higher temps or just building a system with a decent cooling ?

performance of course. You could limit thermal output by undervolting if not the power limit as well to make temperatures good, maybe let it run faster when you upgrade the cooler later on. Cant do this with the 3600, though the difference should only be noticeable in multithread work.

 

best value big cooler is the Scythe Mugen 5 btw.

 

[bert22]

3 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

3600 does not need a aftermarket cooler. The included cooler suffices. 
 

Even for a 3700x not necessarily needed, but you could go with something like this for some extra cooling. Price DRP4 $90 so went 2/3 of that 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$63.75 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$63.75
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 18:02 EDT-0400

 

I am on a budget :(...temperature combo or peformance?

[Vishera]

Go for the 3700X,the stock cooler is good enough.

5 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

3600 does not need a aftermarket cooler. The included cooler suffices. 
 

Even for a 3700x not necessarily needed, but you could go with something like this for some extra cooling. Price DRP4 $90 so went 2/3 of that 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$63.75 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$63.75
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 18:02 EDT-0400

 

Even the 212 EVO will do a good job,no need for the NH-U14S.

[bert22]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

performance of course. You could limit thermal output by undervolting if not the power limit as well to make temperatures good, maybe let it run faster when you upgrade the cooler later on. Cant do this with the 3600, though the difference should only be noticeable in multithread work.

 

best value big cooler is the Scythe Mugen 5 btw.

 

thanks man!

 

[Boyohan]

The 3600 is a very good CPU but I guarantee that eventually you will regret not getting the 3700x.

You can always upgrade the cooler at a later time.

[Vishera]

1 minute ago, Jakob22122003 said:

I am on a budget :(...temperature combo or peformance?

3700X with stock cooler, then,you can upgrade the cooler later if you want,

The stock cooler is good enough though,

[Mister Woof]

If you can afford the 3700x, get it.

 

The 3600 is basically 8700k level performance, which is already 2 years old.

[19_blackie_73]

11 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

The 3600 is a very good CPU but I guarantee that eventually you will regret not getting the 3700x.

You can always upgrade the cooler at a later time.

Except you are like me and speculating on a 8 core 4th gen later down the line

Though honestly I'd go for the 3700x and get a dark rock 4 on a later date. The stock cooler isn't that horrible, but for my standards too loud. (Which means that I am really sensitive to noise while working)

[Boyohan]

7 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

Except you are like me and speculating on a 8 core 4th gen later down the line

Ye but (correct me if I am wrong) isn't Ryzen 3000 series meant to be the last CPU on the AM4 platform ?

Which means that you will need to upgrade both CPU and Mobo. 

[Stormseeker9]

4 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

Ye but (correct me if I am wrong) isn't Ryzen 3000 series meant to be the last CPU on the AM4 platform ?

Which means that you will need to upgrade both CPU and Mobo. 

Nope, Ryzen 4000 is the last supported, but amd could change and continue with this socket for a even a following gen, ive read/heard somewhere iirc

[Mister Woof]

Not worth it to buy with intent to upgrade soon imo

 

Just buy the best you can afford now (assuming it's fresh in it's release cycle) and upgrade everything when it's not good enough.

 

Judging by how long people have been holding on to their sandy bridge and FX chips, it's not unreasonable to plan for a system to last 5+ years if you buy something powerful to start with.

[Boyohan]

1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Not worth it to buy with intent to upgrade soon imo

 

Just buy the best you can afford now (assuming it's fresh in it's release cycle) and upgrade everything when it's not good enough.

 

Judging by how long people have been holding on to their sandy bridge and FX chips, it's not unreasonable to plan for a system to last 5+ years if you buy something powerful to start with.

Agreed.

My old PC (i5 2500k) lasted for about 6½ years and my current (bought in late 2017) would probably last another 2-3 year without problems.

I may upgrade my current setup this a bit earlier though. 

I am currently regretting not getting the 8700k so @Jakob22122003 should imo definitely buy the best possible setup your budget allows.