First AMD Build, Need Advice

[lineu94]

Hi, first of all sorry for my bad english,

 

My budget is around 1400€ i live in Spain. I will use the rig most likely to compile programs and just play some games, i dont need to play at 4k-60fps. currently i have a i5-3570k, and im planning to go amd next

 

this is my current RIG:

 

CPU: i5-3570k

Cooler: Cooler Master 212 EVO

MOBO: GA-B75M-HD3

Case: Thermaltake Core G21 

PSU: Mars Gaming 850W

RAM: 8GB Samsung old sticks

GPU: RX 580 8GB

 

Upgrade Build: i will preserve Case and PSU if possible

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700x

Cooler: Thermaltake Pacific M360 or this set  NZXT kraken G12 + NZXT Kraken X42 140 mm + NZXT Kraken X72 360 mm , both options are around the same price, the pacific m360 kit is hard tube and i dont have the tools to bend it so gonna need to buy those or try without using tools and maybe fail, i kinda prefer the set of NZXT cuz i can liquid cool cpu and gpu for the same price as pacific M360 but dont know how good AIO really are so i cant decide this part.

MOBO: Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WiFi

RAM: G Skill F4-3200C16D-32GV

Storage:  Corsair Force MP510

 

this is my first planned build and i have almost all the pieces decided except for cooling, i accept advice with any part of the build, i wanna preserve case and psu to save money and be able to spend more on other parts i think that the case and psu should be good enough to new parts.

 

Thanks for the help

[Meganter]

6 minutes ago, lineu94 said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€340.00 @ Amazon Espana
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	€214.99 @ Amazon Espana
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€141.82 @ Alternate
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€125.94 @ PC Componentes
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	Purchased
Case	Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case	Purchased
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€74.90 @ Amazon Espana
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€897.65
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 09:28 CET+0100

I changed the PSU for something that I know is reliable (not saying yours isn't but I don't know it ).

 

Don't know about custom watercooling.

 

Changed the mobo for something as good, cheaper and Zen 2 ready.

[lineu94]

37 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

 

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How good will be that Mobo for OC?

[Meganter]

2 minutes ago, lineu94 said:

How good will be that Mobo for OC?

As good as the gaming 7, other option are the Aorus Pro or Ultra, Asus Strix-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro and Asrock Taichi, Phantom Gaming X.

[lineu94]

5 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

 

Thanks, I will pick that Mobo, reduce the storage cuz I don't need that much and pick a PSU with more power, dunno if 550 will be enough for liquid cooling the OC CPU and GPU

[Caennanu]

the Build Plouffe made is a good combination of parts indeed. I would personally opt for a B450 mainboard however, Tomahawk MAX, Mortar MAX or the likes. They will save you 100 bucks and overclocking is just fine on them. unless you really need the Gen4 PCI-e, there isn't really much reason to go for an X570.

 

In terms of the AIO vs custom loops. LTT recently did a video of the corsair 'prebuild' custom loops. Something you may want to check out.

As for personal experience. i been using an H110i for 2 years and haven't had any issues whatsoever. Was easy to install and easy to get a clean looking setup. 

Only difference is, i'm not into RGB or looks and the only reason i have tempered glass, is because the case was actually cheaper compared to similar cases with an aluminum side (at the time).

 

[Streetguru]

1 hour ago, lineu94 said:

 

I would stick to air cooling for a workstation, also Ryzen 3000 doesn't use too much power, so a dual 120mm air cooler is fine.

 

Absolutely don't need a PCI-e 4.0 SSD, but if you're feeling crazy the option is there. The price is likely to drop fast though, so probably just get 2 1TB 660ps, or a single 2TB 660p.

Don't need a new case either, but there's that one with it's 2 200mm fans

Just reuse the GPU

 

If you want a hard drive just pick up a 4TB NAS hard drive.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/GXxCb8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€340.00 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€60.82 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€214.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€141.82 @ Alternate)
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€238.82 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€216.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €1408.33

 

 

[lineu94]

thanks guys @Streetguru @Caennanu @Plouffe i dont really need PCI4.0 but the fact that x570 is compatible with ryzen 3700x right outside the box is a good thing, i dont have a 2nd generation of ryzen to upgrade bios, i dont need that much storage so 2tb nvme is kinda overkill, i have 4tb HDD for store things, the build is like this, i followed some advice from u guys

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€340.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€214.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€141.82 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Corsair MP510 240 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€54.99 @ Corsair) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500P Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€145.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II EVO 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€80.62 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €1078.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 12:39 CET+0100

 

need to change case cuz my current one not support high end air cooler (space problem)

 

if i go water cooling i could keep case and imo it could be better for OC

[Meganter]

4 minutes ago, lineu94 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€340.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€214.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€141.82 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Corsair MP510 240 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€54.99 @ Corsair) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500P Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€145.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II EVO 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€80.62 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €1078.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 12:39 CET+0100

 

A bit pricey SSD and a bad PSU but everything else is fine to me  

[Streetguru]

16 minutes ago, lineu94 said:

thanks guys @Streetguru @Caennanu @Plouffe i dont really need PCI4.0 but the fact that x570 is compatible

The cheaper H500 is basically the same case as the H500P Mesh

Would at least get a 500GB 660p then

 

for sure buy a modern PSU, gold rated from corsair/evga/coolermaster should be fine.

[lineu94]

@Streetguru thanks, that help to save a few bucks. @Plouffe comparing ur ssd with mine, u are right the one i picked is overpriced

 

i ended with this now 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€340.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€214.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€141.82 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€125.94 @ PC Componentes) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (Purchased) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€74.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €1097.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 13:02 CET+0100

 

if i decide to go water cooling at the end i will just go with the set of nzxt that will allow me to cool cpu and gpu and remain with my old case

[Caennanu]

1 hour ago, lineu94 said:

@Streetguru thanks, that help to save a few bucks. @Plouffe comparing ur ssd with mine, u are right the one i picked is overpriced

 

i ended with this now 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€340.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€99.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€214.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€141.82 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€125.94 @ PC Componentes) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (Purchased) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€74.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €1097.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 13:02 CET+0100

 

if i decide to go water cooling at the end i will just go with the set of nzxt that will allow me to cool cpu and gpu and remain with my old case

Not that it really matters, just additional information at this point ;). But the tomahawk B450 MAX comes with a ryzen 3000 series ready bios (unless you have the first batch, that one can have an experimental bios). Next to that, it also has CPU-less bios flash feature. So you won't need an older CPU to flash it, in fact you can't even have a CPU installed to use the feature.

[lineu94]

3 hours ago, Caennanu said:

Not that it really matters, just additional information at this point ;). But the tomahawk B450 MAX comes with a ryzen 3000 series ready bios (unless you have the first batch, that one can have an experimental bios). Next to that, it also has CPU-less bios flash feature. So you won't need an older CPU to flash it, in fact you can't even have a CPU installed to use the feature.

I didn't know about the CPU-less bios flash feature, I don't really need a x570, PCI4.0 is pointless to me, so could save a few bucks, thanks for the tips to all of u guys