Thermal Paste Recommendation

[Taintedmind]

I was curious if it's recommended to re-paste every time a processor is detached from its cooling source, such as a processor tower/cooler/heat sync and/or a graphics card cooler?  Any useful info would be appreciated   

[WoodenMarker]

Repasting is good practice but the difference is often very small as long as the paste isn't old or otherwise disturbed like being smeared off. 

[RainingTacco]

19 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

I was curious if it's recommended to re-paste every time a processor is detached from its cooling source, such as a processor tower/cooler/heat sync and/or a graphics card cooler?  Any useful info would be appreciated   

It's recommended, because otherwise you can trap air bubbles.

[Joey-Joe-Joe]

Consider a thermal pad. I started using this one several months ago and my CPU temps are equal to a dozen different pastes I have used. Even Linus and other YouTubers have recommended it and you see them using it all of the time in order to quick swap CPUs without having to deal with paste. Seriously, the performance is incredible. I'm currently running my 8700k at 5ghz on all cores with a nice air cooler and this pad and my temps are fantastic! I've taken my cooler off three or four times to move parts around and the pad comes out and goes right back in like it's nothing!

 

https://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Graphite-Thermal-Pad/dp/B07CKVW18G/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=thermal+pad&qid=1572410795&sr=8-4

[Taintedmind]

6 minutes ago, Joey-Joe-Joe said:

Consider a thermal pad. I started using this one several months ago and my CPU temps are equal to a dozen different pastes I have used. Even Linus and other YouTubers have recommended it and you see them using it all of the time in order to quick swap CPUs without having to deal with paste. Seriously, the performance is incredible. I'm currently running my 8700k at 5ghz on all cores with a nice air cooler and this pad and my temps are fantastic! I've taken my cooler off three or four times to move parts around and the pad comes out and goes right back in like it's nothing!

 

https://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Graphite-Thermal-Pad/dp/B07CKVW18G/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=thermal+pad&qid=1572410795&sr=8-4

Is the 30x30mm for Intel and the 40x40mm for AMD?

[Joey-Joe-Joe]

47 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

Is the 30x30mm for Intel and the 40x40mm for AMD?

Yes, although I've seen people use the 30x30 for AMD and reported it cools just the same. But, yes, 30x30 Intel and 40x40 for AMD would be typical.

[Joey-Joe-Joe]

I use the 30x30 on my 8700k and it fits perfect.

[Taintedmind]

2 minutes ago, Joey-Joe-Joe said:

I use the 30x30 on my 8700k and it fits perfect.

Thanks - I'm about to order parts w/a friend tomorrow for his $2k computer and I was wonderin which one I should get for it (i9-9900KS).  I have the i7-8700k (in description), so I am thinkin about purchasin one when I upgrade to the new black edition Noctua dual fan.  Once I get it, then I'll likely just Sync All Cores for more consistently higher frame rates.  The Cooler Master Hyper 212 - Black Edition isn't anywhere near cool enough for the processor and it gets to dangerous lvl's (104 f)

[Gegger]

5 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

it gets to dangerous lvl's (104 f)

did you mean celsius? because 104 C is not good, but 104F is fine

[Taintedmind]

1 minute ago, Gegger said:

did you mean celsius? because 104 C is not good, but 104F is fine

Yes, Celcius - I was amazed it didn't thermal throttle/crash/BSoD

[Gegger]

5 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

Yes, Celcius - I was amazed it didn't thermal throttle/crash/BSoD

Ah, ok, that's not good. If you haven't repasted already, do that

[Taintedmind]

Just now, Gegger said:

Ah, ok, that's not good. If you haven't repasted already, do that

I just turned off Sync All Core and it's stable now - I'm not goin to stay boosted at 4.7GHz until I have the new Noctua black edition; then I should be fine.

[WoodenMarker]

15 hours ago, Taintedmind said:

Thanks - I'm about to order parts w/a friend tomorrow for his $2k computer and I was wonderin which one I should get for it (i9-9900KS).  I have the i7-8700k (in description), so I am thinkin about purchasin one when I upgrade to the new black edition Noctua dual fan.  Once I get it, then I'll likely just Sync All Cores for more consistently higher frame rates.  The Cooler Master Hyper 212 - Black Edition isn't anywhere near cool enough for the processor and it gets to dangerous lvl's (104 f)

Are you oc'ing or running default motherboard settings? The Hyper 212 BE on a stock 8700k or 9900k should be fine for keeping temps in check.

For leaving Asus MCE enabled or oc'ing, you should get a better cooler. 

[Taintedmind]

Just now, WoodenMarker said:

Are you oc'ing or running default motherboard settings? The Hyper 212 BE on a stock 8700k or 9900k should be fine for keeping temps in check.

For leaving Asus MCE enabled or oc'ing, you should get a better cooler. 

Just w/e the motherboard has w/Sync All Cores to 4.7GHz.  It's fine when they're on Auto, which's what I have it on now; but the constant 4.7GHz overheats it immensely w/only 4 heat pipes, thus far.

[WoodenMarker]

1 minute ago, Taintedmind said:

Just w/e the motherboard has w/Sync All Cores to 4.7GHz.  It's fine when they're on Auto, which's what I have it on now; but the constant 4.7GHz overheats it immensely w/only 4 heat pipes, thus far.

At stock, Asus MCE is enabled which is basically an auto-oc which also tends to use more voltage than manually oc'ing. That's probably the cause of your high temps. 

Try disabling it and see if that helps. 

[Taintedmind]

12 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

At stock, Asus MCE is enabled which is basically an auto-oc which also tends to use more voltage than manually oc'ing. That's probably the cause of your high temps. 

Try disabling it and see if that helps. 

Should performance change at all?  The only real BIOS thing I change is MBR and RAM speed, so I'm not majorly familiar w/OC, voltage, etc. or anything to that degree.

[WoodenMarker]

Just now, Taintedmind said:

Should performance change at all?  The only real BIOS thing I change is MBR and RAM speed, so I'm not majorly familiar w/OC, voltage, etc. or anything to that degree.

Yes, Asus MCE is basically an auto-oc and oc'ing will increase performance. Turning it off would remove that but you can probably manually oc using less voltage for similar results and lower temps. 

[Taintedmind]

14 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Yes, Asus MCE is basically an auto-oc and oc'ing will increase performance. Turning it off would remove that but you can probably manually oc using less voltage for similar results and lower temps. 

I wouldn't know how to adjust the voltage, so it's not a major interest/past time of mine.

[WoodenMarker]

1 minute ago, Taintedmind said:

I wouldn't know how to adjust the voltage, so it's not a major interest/past time of mine.

Alternatively, you could just leave it at stock after disabling MCE. If all you're doing is syncing the cores to max turbo, leaving it on doesn't provide any benefit. 

[Taintedmind]

6 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Alternatively, you could just leave it at stock after disabling MCE. If all you're doing is syncing the cores to max turbo, leaving it on doesn't provide any benefit. 

My temps have gone up about 10-15c w/out MCE on at Auto  =/

[WoodenMarker]

16 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

My temps have gone up about 10-15c w/out MCE on at Auto  =/

So MCE is set to disabled? How are you testing for temps?

[Taintedmind]

Just now, WoodenMarker said:

So MCE is set to disabled? How are you testing for temps?

Yes - I'm playin the normal games I play w/cold ambient temps (window open w/an overhead fan)

[WoodenMarker]

17 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

Yes - I'm playin the normal games I play w/cold ambient temps (window open w/an overhead fan)

Games aren't a very consistent way of testing temps. I recommend using synthetic loads like OCCT instead. 

[Taintedmind]

6 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Games aren't a very consistent way of testing temps. I recommend using synthetic loads like OCCT instead. 

I know they're far from consistent, but it's the vast-majority of what I do w/it; so it's pretty much the only thing that matters for what I'm lookin for.  A handful of games are played heavily on it, so those're when the temps'll matter the most to me.  Everything else is goin to be irrelevant, since it won't be under load.  I'm movin 11/5, so I'll have to see what the ambient temps are there.  Also, humidity in case it's an issue.

[WoodenMarker]

22 minutes ago, Taintedmind said:

I know they're far from consistent, but it's the vast-majority of what I do w/it; so it's pretty much the only thing that matters for what I'm lookin for.  A handful of games are played heavily on it, so those're when the temps'll matter the most to me.  Everything else is goin to be irrelevant, since it won't be under load.  I'm movin 11/5, so I'll have to see what the ambient temps are there.  Also, humidity in case it's an issue.

What are temps during gaming? As long as they're kept in check, that's all that really matters.