The Outer Worlds

[Carz728]

I have a vega 56 and an i5 8400. I have the fps capped at 60 fps but there are constant drops into the 40s what is causing this?

here is gameplay.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BhnZolqseI-9K3iRIyZKn-C1kks3mEC7

 

[GalacticRuler]

Does it occur when you move the character around? If it doesn't occur when you move the camera, but only when you move the character itself, it could be your storage drive struggling to load background assets quickly enough. Do you have an SSD?

[Carz728]

1 minute ago, GalacticRuler said:

Does it occur when you move the character around? If it doesn't occur when you move the camera, but only when you move the character itself, it could be your storage drive struggling to load background assets quickly enough. Do you have an SSD?

Yes

[Carz728]

1 minute ago, GalacticRuler said:

Does it occur when you move the character around? If it doesn't occur when you move the camera, but only when you move the character itself, it could be your storage drive struggling to load background assets quickly enough. Do you have an SSD?

Is there a way to check if that is the problem

 

[GalacticRuler]

As I said, move the camera around but not the character. Then move the character forward to load up new assets in the world. If it only occurs when moving the character, then it's likely a storage issue. What resolution are you playing at?

[Carz728]

Just now, GalacticRuler said:

As I said, move the camera around but not the character. Then move the character forward to load up new assets in the world. If it only occurs when moving the character, then it's likely a storage issue. What resolution are you playing at?

1080p

[Carz728]

2 minutes ago, GalacticRuler said:

As I said, move the camera around but not the character. Then move the character forward to load up new assets in the world. If it only occurs when moving the character, then it's likely a storage issue. What resolution are you playing at?

it occurs mostly when moving my character

[GalacticRuler]

2 minutes ago, Carz728 said:

it occurs mostly when moving my character

What's your storage device?

[Carz728]

2 minutes ago, GalacticRuler said:

What's your storage device?

Its running on this https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500-500gb/p/N82E16820156177

[GalacticRuler]

2 minutes ago, Carz728 said:

Its running on this https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500-500gb/p/N82E16820156177

That shouldn't be causing issues unless there's something wrong with it. Can you try copying and pasting a large file and seeing if the read/write speeds are near their advertised?

[Carz728]

9 minutes ago, GalacticRuler said:

That shouldn't be causing issues unless there's something wrong with it. Can you try copying and pasting a large file and seeing if the read/write speeds are near their advertised?

Yeah I just did a benchmark and they are

[Vishera]

34 minutes ago, GalacticRuler said:

If it doesn't occur when you move the camera, but only when you move the character itself, it could be your storage drive struggling to load background assets quickly enough. Do you have an SSD?

That's not how it works,

Games load everything from the storage drive to RAM/VRAM in the loading screen,so it does not matter gameplay wise if the game is stored on an IDE or a NVME.

[Carz728]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

That's not how it works,

Games load everything from the storage drive to RAM/VRAM in the loading screen,so it does not matter gameplay wise if the game is stored on an IDE or a NVME.

i only have 2100mhz ram is that what could be causing frame drops?

 

[Vishera]

5 minutes ago, Carz728 said:

i only have 2100mhz ram is that what could be causing frame drops?

 

No,as long as you have at least 8GB of RAM you are fine,

Try to set the power plan in Windows to High Performance.

[Praesi]

I have no Solution, but it runs without Problems here on max settings. So you have a Rig to compare to your own. My RAM runs at 3kmhz, but i doubt thats your Problem.

It runs on an SSD tho. In my Experience, SSD´s smoth gaming experience beyond the loading screen.

[Carz728]

2 minutes ago, Praesi said:

I have no Solution, but it runs without Problems here on max settings. So you have a Rig to compare to your own. My RAM runs at 3kmhz, but i doubt thats your Problem.

It runs on an SSD tho. In my Experience, SSD´s smoth gaming experience beyond the loading screen.

Yeah mines running on an ssd too do you have fps capped?

[Vishera]

Just now, Praesi said:

SSD´s smoth gaming experience beyond the loading screen.

This is an illusion,in gameplay storage drives sit and do nothing,unless you copy a file or download something during gameplay.

Anyway OP has SSD.

2 minutes ago, Carz728 said:

Yeah mines running on an ssd too do you have fps capped?

Try closing every program that is open,and set Windows to "High Performance" power plan.

[Carz728]

Just now, Vishera said:

This is an illusion,in gameplay storage drives sit and do nothing,unless you copy a file or download something during gameplay.

Anyway OP has SSD.

Try closing every program that is open,and set Windows to "High Performance" power plan.

yeah I did both of those things still experiencing frame drops into the 50s that freeze the game

[Carz728]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

This is an illusion,in gameplay storage drives sit and do nothing,unless you copy a file or download something during gameplay.

Anyway OP has SSD.

Try closing every program that is open,and set Windows to "High Performance" power plan.

From the gameplay, is there a gpu bottleneck?

[Praesi]

Just now, Carz728 said:

Yeah mines running on an ssd too do you have fps capped?

Yes, to 144. Cant tell you how much FPS i get tho. Dont see a counter (bought it via Wondows Game Pass) and i havent installled any oberservation tool atm. Runs like butter tho. On top, this is a realy good Game. Way better than all the AAA Bullshit they throw at us. Obsidian is putting Bethesda in their Place big time here.

[Vishera]

10 minutes ago, Carz728 said:

From the gameplay, is there a gpu bottleneck?

I don't think so,

But the stutters occur when there is a CPU usage spike,i have seen spikes to 47% CPU usage in the video.

The CPU is not 100% used so no bottleneck.

Maybe it's the game,It's a new game after all.

 

PCGamer news got stutters too:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-outer-worlds-system-requirements-settings-benchmarks-and-performance-analysis/

[jones177]

5 hours ago, Carz728 said:

I have a vega 56 and an i5 8400. I have the fps capped at 60 fps but there are constant drops into the 40s what is causing this?

here is gameplay.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BhnZolqseI-9K3iRIyZKn-C1kks3mEC7

 

There is a 20fps swing in frame depending on the direction you are looking at.

Lowering shadows seems to be the best way to deal with it.

 

Setting shadows to high keeps me from dropping below 60fps.

 

2 hours ago, Vishera said:

That's not how it works,

Games load everything from the storage drive to RAM/VRAM in the loading screen,so it does not matter gameplay wise if the game is stored on an IDE or a NVME.

Open World games load as you go. 

Most use the cell system. The game loads the cell that you are in and the adjacent cells. As you move from one cell to the next the game loads and unloads cells. Cells further away are represented by LODs or objects of lesser detail. When LODs are not managed properly you get scenery popping in.

 

In Bethesda games you can use a console command to see the cell borders and there is an ini line that can make the game load more cells to cut down on pop-ins.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Paul Rudd]

13 hours ago, Carz728 said:

there are constant drops into the 40s what is causing this?

My guess is the game itself and certain individual graphic settings being too high. Fastest way to find this out is to play on the absolute lowest settings. If the stutters disappear, then my calculations are correct. The next step would be to find out which settings are the culprits and set them to their acceptable positions. Everything else that isn't causing the stuttering or killing your fps, you can bump up.